Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 12:46:39 +0200

Well, it's more the surrealism combined with the themes.

He is probably best known for "Zerkalo" AKA "The Mirror".  Here's a
description from Wikipedia:

> *Mirror* unfolds as an organic flow of memories recalled by a dying poet
> (based on Tarkovsky's own father Arseny who in reality would outlive his
> filmmaker son by three years) of key moments in his life both with respect
> to his immediate family as well as that of the Russian people as a whole
> during the tumultuous events of the twentieth century. The film combines
> contemporary scenes with childhood memories, dreams, and newsreel footage.
> The cinematography slips unpredictably from color to black-and-white to
> Sepia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone> then back again to color.
> The loose flow of visually oneiric images
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneiric_%28film_theory%29> has been
> compared to stream of consciousness
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_writing> technique
> in literature. The unconventional non-linear structure of the film combined
> with its rich - often symbolic - imagery lends the film an unusual power of
> expression that has found favour with Russians for whom it remains their
> most beloved of Tarkovsky's films.[3]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29#cite_note-3>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29

He also did Solyaris (based on the same story as the George Clooney movie),
and Stalker (based on the story from the FPS game).


Yep, that was TV4.

[image: http://www.vetseun.co.za/anarkans/logo/tv4.jpg]

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Difficult themes? If it’s like the Russian novels, it’s a hit and miss
> situation even with their good stuff. I might check out some of the
> Tarkovski stuff once I have net access back.
>
>
>
> Yeah, I remember TV4. Was that the one with the star in the 4? Then TSS?
> CCV?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:47 AM
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> Enter the Void is meh...  Could have been a 100 times better if they
> didn't spend ages trying to get the viewer to understand the themes.  Good
> if you're on LSD I guess.
>
> Tarkovksy's movies are challenging, mostly because they are in Russian,
> are often very surreal, and deal with difficult themes.  Not easy viewing.
>
> The Massive Attack video is Unfinished Sympathy.  The one where they
> follow the singer (Shara Nelson) around the city.  They used to play that
> and Safe From Harm on Zero Hour Zone on TV4 (who remembers that?).  I
> thought you were talking about a movie called Massive Attack hehe.
>
> I liked Gravity.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  I’ve got Enter the Void lying around, but haven’t got around to watching
> it. Same with Under the Skin. No idea who Tarkovksy is. Just checked IMDB.
> Nope. Are his films worth watching? I mean from a non-technical perspective.
>
>
>
> First time I saw the Massive Attack video, I didn’t realise that it was
> all one shot. I just assumed they’d cut it. I forget what the song was
> called, but it was more than 5min long.
>
> Snake Eyes was an okay film. It wasn’t bad or good… actually can’t
> remember much about the film.
>
>
>
> I don’t know if I can be arsed to watch Gravity. Maybe I’ll put it on
> sometime while I’m reading. The only thing that I’ve heard about Gravity is
> that it is a very pretty film. No one seems to care about the story or
> script. That seems like a bit of a fail to me.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:15 AM
>
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> I haven't seen either, but last year there was Gravity which had a 17
> minute opening shot.  Under the Skin had shots the seem to be influenced by
> filmmakers like Tarkovksy.  The Protector has a 4 minute long shot (the
> stair case fight scene).  Enter the Void is composed of long shots (about 1
> to 2 minutes in length), joined together by psychedelic visuals.
>
> In The Sacrifice, Tarkovsky's crew built a special house meant to be
> burned down in a 6 minute long shot.  Toward the end of the shot the camera
> jammed and the film was ruined.  It took them two weeks to refilm it.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5cYiRPf3E
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>  It opened at Cinema Nouveau up here.
>
> Long scenes are cool. Barring Massive Attack, nothing comes to mind
> though. Oh, wasn’t the first 10min of Snake Eyes a single shot?
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 10:46 AM
>
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> Low budget?  Yes.  And it only opened in 4 cinemas, raking in less than
> $500k.  But it's probably best considered Arthouse, not B movie.
>
> You can't not notice the camera work in Birdman.  The entire movie,
> barring 1 or 2 scenes in the beginning is shot in one long continuous
> sequence.  It's obviously an illusion but it's still great to watch.  There
> are scenes where they film in front of a mirror and you can't see the
> camera.  There's a seen where the camera follows Michael Keaton through a
> busy square in NYC.  And a great scene where the camera glides from the
> theatre rafters to the stage below.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  for best gimmick in a film
>
> soim guessing if birdman was shot in 30 days , that would make it a low
> budget B movie?
>
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> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:29:06 +0000
>
>
>
> Then I suppose they’d be guaranteed the Oscar.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 7:24 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>
>
>
> boyhood - what if the kid died during that 12 years?
>
> "rock is overpowered, paper is fine" - scissors
>
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> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:09:25 +0000
>
> I tend to figure that the camera work is only something you notice if it’s
> done badly. I can’t recall when last I noticed good camera work in a film.
>
> Same with most of the things, I guess. It’s only when the music is jarring
> and detracts from the scene that I actually notice it.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:50 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
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>
>
> Sheesh... apparently the movie was shot in only 30 days.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>  Birdman's camera work is amazing.  I haven't been that technically
> impressed by a movie in a long itme.  All the while I kept thinking "I
> can't imagine how hard it must have been to film this".  Fantastic
> cinematography.
>
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