Re: DRE: CTS community mail

  • From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 14:53:59 +0200

@Khany, is there a sesh tonight?
On 11 Feb 2015 13:18, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I read the first episode of James Joyce's Ulysses before my own stream of
> consciousness took over and carried me off to a video game.
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  Hmmm. I tend to prefer stream of consciousness to be limited to books.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:47 PM
>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, it's more the surrealism combined with the themes.
>>
>> He is probably best known for "Zerkalo" AKA "The Mirror".  Here's a
>> description from Wikipedia:
>>
>> *Mirror* unfolds as an organic flow of memories recalled by a dying poet
>> (based on Tarkovsky's own father Arseny who in reality would outlive his
>> filmmaker son by three years) of key moments in his life both with respect
>> to his immediate family as well as that of the Russian people as a whole
>> during the tumultuous events of the twentieth century. The film combines
>> contemporary scenes with childhood memories, dreams, and newsreel footage.
>> The cinematography slips unpredictably from color to black-and-white to
>> Sepia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepia_tone> then back again to
>> color. The loose flow of visually oneiric images
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneiric_%28film_theory%29> has been
>> compared to stream of consciousness
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_writing> technique
>> in literature. The unconventional non-linear structure of the film combined
>> with its rich - often symbolic - imagery lends the film an unusual power of
>> expression that has found favour with Russians for whom it remains their
>> most beloved of Tarkovsky's films.[3]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29#cite_note-3>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mirror_%281975_film%29
>>
>> He also did Solyaris (based on the same story as the George Clooney
>> movie), and Stalker (based on the story from the FPS game).
>>
>>
>>
>> Yep, that was TV4.
>>
>> [image: Image removed by sender.
>> http://www.vetseun.co.za/anarkans/logo/tv4.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>  Difficult themes? If it’s like the Russian novels, it’s a hit and miss
>> situation even with their good stuff. I might check out some of the
>> Tarkovski stuff once I have net access back.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I remember TV4. Was that the one with the star in the 4? Then TSS?
>> CCV?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:47 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>
>>
>>
>> Enter the Void is meh...  Could have been a 100 times better if they
>> didn't spend ages trying to get the viewer to understand the themes.  Good
>> if you're on LSD I guess.
>>
>> Tarkovksy's movies are challenging, mostly because they are in Russian,
>> are often very surreal, and deal with difficult themes.  Not easy viewing.
>>
>> The Massive Attack video is Unfinished Sympathy.  The one where they
>> follow the singer (Shara Nelson) around the city.  They used to play that
>> and Safe From Harm on Zero Hour Zone on TV4 (who remembers that?).  I
>> thought you were talking about a movie called Massive Attack hehe.
>>
>> I liked Gravity.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>  I’ve got Enter the Void lying around, but haven’t got around to
>> watching it. Same with Under the Skin. No idea who Tarkovksy is. Just
>> checked IMDB. Nope. Are his films worth watching? I mean from a
>> non-technical perspective.
>>
>>
>>
>> First time I saw the Massive Attack video, I didn’t realise that it was
>> all one shot. I just assumed they’d cut it. I forget what the song was
>> called, but it was more than 5min long.
>>
>> Snake Eyes was an okay film. It wasn’t bad or good… actually can’t
>> remember much about the film.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know if I can be arsed to watch Gravity. Maybe I’ll put it on
>> sometime while I’m reading. The only thing that I’ve heard about Gravity is
>> that it is a very pretty film. No one seems to care about the story or
>> script. That seems like a bit of a fail to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 11:15 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't seen either, but last year there was Gravity which had a 17
>> minute opening shot.  Under the Skin had shots the seem to be influenced by
>> filmmakers like Tarkovksy.  The Protector has a 4 minute long shot (the
>> stair case fight scene).  Enter the Void is composed of long shots (about 1
>> to 2 minutes in length), joined together by psychedelic visuals.
>>
>> In The Sacrifice, Tarkovsky's crew built a special house meant to be
>> burned down in a 6 minute long shot.  Toward the end of the shot the camera
>> jammed and the film was ruined.  It took them two weeks to refilm it.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5cYiRPf3E
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>  It opened at Cinema Nouveau up here.
>>
>> Long scenes are cool. Barring Massive Attack, nothing comes to mind
>> though. Oh, wasn’t the first 10min of Snake Eyes a single shot?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 10:46 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>
>>
>>
>> Low budget?  Yes.  And it only opened in 4 cinemas, raking in less than
>> $500k.  But it's probably best considered Arthouse, not B movie.
>>
>> You can't not notice the camera work in Birdman.  The entire movie,
>> barring 1 or 2 scenes in the beginning is shot in one long continuous
>> sequence.  It's obviously an illusion but it's still great to watch.  There
>> are scenes where they film in front of a mirror and you can't see the
>> camera.  There's a seen where the camera follows Michael Keaton through a
>> busy square in NYC.  And a great scene where the camera glides from the
>> theatre rafters to the stage below.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:32 AM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  for best gimmick in a film
>>
>> soim guessing if birdman was shot in 30 days , that would make it a low
>> budget B movie?
>>
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>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:29:06 +0000
>>
>>
>>
>> Then I suppose they’d be guaranteed the Oscar.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 7:24 AM
>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>>
>>
>>
>> boyhood - what if the kid died during that 12 years?
>>
>> "rock is overpowered, paper is fine" - scissors
>>
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>>
>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: DRE: CTS community mail
>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 05:09:25 +0000
>>
>> I tend to figure that the camera work is only something you notice if
>> it’s done badly. I can’t recall when last I noticed good camera work in a
>> film.
>>
>> Same with most of the things, I guess. It’s only when the music is
>> jarring and detracts from the scene that I actually notice it.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>> *Sent:* 11 February 2015 12:50 AM
>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* Re: DRE: CTS community mail
>>
>>
>>
>> Sheesh... apparently the movie was shot in only 30 days.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:48 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Birdman's camera work is amazing.  I haven't been that technically
>> impressed by a movie in a long itme.  All the while I kept thinking "I
>> can't imagine how hard it must have been to film this".  Fantastic
>> cinematography.
>>
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