HI E, I think your right about organizing ourselves. I saw what a major corporation did with volunteers and the kind of dedication most of them had. Here we are a group of dedicated volunteers with a passion for books and quality. IN this discussion as well as others we all would like to see BookShare grow and become more. Empower this group with the additional means of communication and the tools to do more it can only make BookShare grow into the kind of resource we are imagining. For now I don't think it would take a paid co-coordinator to start to take it to that next level. Those who desire to stay anonymous can do that as a general member and still contribute to the site by scanning and submitting those who are committed to the cause of BookShare can become an active part of the volunteer group. This is not a new idea AOL along with other major online communities have already proven it works :) Kaitlyn Healing Practitioner "The cost of a thing is the amount of what I call life, which is required to be exchanged for it immediately or in the long run." Henry Thoreau -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:22 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers who are not contributing It is clear that bookshare cannot pay a co-ordinator at this time. Though one might be valuable I think we are going to have to organize ourselves for the near term. At 11:18 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote: >Elizabeth, > >These types of suggestions could be managed by a coordinator. "a person who >is volunteering may not want to be on a busier list like this but the >valuable information could still be distributed. > > >Kaitlyn >Healing Practitioner >"The cost of a thing is the amount of what I call life, which is required to >be exchanged for it immediately or in the long run." >Henry Thoreau > > >-----Original Message----- >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. >Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 2:03 PM >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers who are not contributing > >Quickest way to deal with that is to download a book with a fair submission >from step 2 list and reject it with the kind of message I suggest from a >staff member. Something like "sentences repeatedly cut off in an orderly >manner. Usual cause is not holding down binding." Folks the reasons a >book is truly in need of rejection rather than a thorough going over with a >new version of k1000 can be easily made into informative messages. > >I think a person submitting who has a version of k1000 should be asked to >learn the optimize feature. It requires pressing one key and accepting the >suggestions of the software. It radically improves scans. We need more >ways for submitters to learn how to do things well, encouragement for those >who do and rejection for some of the things we as validators are being >asked to fix. > >If someone gets repeated notices that their fair rated books are being >rejected, we will not have to outlaw fair submissions. They will >decrease. The stuff truly worth fixing will be fixed.