[bksvol-discuss] Re: Ok, I'm confused! What's next?

  • From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 03:53:18 -0700

I've done what Kim says. I put the sidebar info where it won't interrupt
the text put it further down the page, put the asterisks to indicate a pace
before and after the side bar I wish I could remember some f the books I
did that had them so you could look at them. One was something about Nature
that I think Shelley scanned --  Also, it maybe that this book:
Medal of Honor: Portraits of Valor Beyond the Call of Duty (2nd edition)
has some


On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Gary Petraccaro <garypet130@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Sidebars:
> I've only done 2 books with sidebars.  I didn't like my solution because I
> generally hate moving text.  In this case the text was not in a paragraph
> at all and I couldn't necessarily see that it belonged to any particular
> paragraph, so I just gritted my teeth and stuck it somewhere on that page
> in between paragraphs.  This was a long time ago when I was less familiar
> with doing books.  Now, I'd probably do what's suggested here, especially
> with the notation sidebar:.  I'd probably put a [Transcriber's note] above
> that, in those brackets or less-thans greater-thans whichever is preferred.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:24 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ok, I'm confused! What's next?
>
>
>  Hi Deb, with regard to sidebars, I can't advise you since I have proofread
>> fiction and not non-fiction. I've dealt with appendices, footnotes, casts
>> of
>> characters, but not sidebars. Probably what you'd do is write Sidebar
>> with a
>> colon after it and proceed to make sure what's in the sidebar. I
>> personally
>> think if sidebars are located within a paragraph of text, I probably would
>> prefer to read the whole paragraph of the text, then read the sidebar
>> connected to it. I do not know what other submitters would say, but the
>> question arises   about whether sidebars are located in such a way as to
>> make sense. Again, I don't know what other submitters will say. With
>> regard
>> to working the format in .rtf, it sounds like a good idea, especially if
>> you're saving your file as an .rtf file. As for me, I generally open the
>> file and proofread it in Word, but I have used Kurzweil when Word was
>> being
>> squirrelly. Regards, Kim Friedman.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gmail For Deb
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 5:18 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ok, I'm confused! What's next?
>>
>> Thanks, Kim!
>>
>> Yes it gives me some parts to work on tomorrow.  Do you typically work in
>> word, or some other text editor?  OmniPage has a text editor, but I'd
>> rather not  rely on the export of the book into rtf to just work without
>> more tweaking afterwards.  It seems like  it would be better to do
>> manipulation of the file in actual rtf format in an editor that plays
>> nicely
>> with it.
>>
>> The one other item that would be helpful to know before I start is how to
>> treat those boxed sections that are kind of like sidebars.  They are at
>> least sometimes guided meditations that fit the general section of the
>> book,
>> but are placed (I believe) right out in the middle of the main flow of the
>> book.  Any suggestions?
>>
>> Again, thanks!
>> Deb Outland
>> Lexington, Kentucky
>>
>>  On Jun 26, 2014, at 7:59 PM, "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Deb, sometimes headers and footers are either the book title and
>>> the author's name. If you see those, you can strip them. If you see a
>>> chapter number or title, then you only want those on the actual first
>>> page of a chapter. Subsequent pages don't need them. I'd also think if
>>> the chapter has sections in them, then you only want a particular
>>> section title to occur on the first page of the section and not on
>>> another page which is in the same section (do you follow me?). With
>>> regard to font, you want to make sure you have a font which is
>>> readable for the whole book (Bookshare likes Times New Roman with
>>> titles at 20-point, Parts at 18-point, Chapter titles at 16-point,
>>> sub-sections or sections at 14-point, actual body of the whole text at
>>> 12-point, Author's name at 20-point. (With regard to font, the real
>>> consideration is that it be readable so Times New Roman or Arial, or
>>> anything which is really clear to read is important.) Page setup should
>>> be
>>>
>> legal or custom size, margins (I'd go for narrow (1.0 or 1.25 all round).
>>
>>> Paragraph setup for the body of the text is generally on the left. I
>>> know what I used to do for paragraphs with regard to proofreading a
>>> document and I can send you my procedure for it, but I think other
>>> submitters will be better at giving you more specific information
>>> about what to do about paragraphs in your text. I hope what I've
>>> mentioned
>>>
>> so far helps you out.
>>
>>> Regards, Kim Friedman.
>>>
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