Okay, then I can just stop moving the numbers from bottom to top. That is, I will stop if I can get out of the habit.
On 6/27/2014 3:45 PM, Judy s. wrote:
Hi Roger,Great question. I'm sure because I recently asked Madeleine about it. Madeleine has actually been working with other bookshare staff to test how the converter currently works to get it all documented. She's already been able to test how it handles pages numbers, and the converter definitely handles it correctly and finds all the page numbers if some page numbers are at the top of pages and some are at the bottom of pages.So the good news is that you don't have to move page numbers any more so that they are all at the top or all at the bottom.Judy s.Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese <https://twitter.com/QuackersNCheese>On 6/27/2014 2:32 PM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx for DMARC) wrote:There is one item in what you said, Judy, that I would like to have emphasized if you are sure you are correct. I know that the converter is supposed to move all page numbers that appear at the bottom of the page to the top, but I find myself asking just how smart is that converter. Sometimes a book will have all the page numbers at the top of the pages anyway except for certain pages like the beginnings of chapters. When that happens I find myself asking if that converter will be able to handle some page numbers already being at the top and know to move the ones that are not. So I just move them myself to be sure. Are you sure that I don't have to do that?On 6/26/2014 10:06 PM, Judy s. wrote:Hi Deb, a little correction to Kim's instructions, as well as some additional stuff to look out for. smile.The formatting for the book under Bookshare's current standards should be as follows:1. On the title page for the book (the page where the title appears, the author's name appears, and the publisher appears)Title: 20 point and bold. Author's Name: 18 point and bold (not 20 point) anything else (like the publisher's name): 12 point and no bold 2. For the rest of the book: Parts/Sections/Books: 18 point and bold. Chapters: 16 point and bold. Subchapters/subsections: 14 point and bold. Text: 12 point and not bold.Font: stick with one that's common, like Times New Roman, Tahoma or Arial for example, and use just one font face throughout the entire book. So if you pick Times New Roman, the whole book should be in Times New Roman.3. You should preserve other bolding as well as italics that are in the correct places that match the original printed text. These are usually:a. To show emphasis b. To note words in foreign languages c. NOT on whole pages or on random wordsBe careful as many OCR scanning programs will randomly bold words on pages, especially if they are italicized, or even randomly bold entire sections of text. That is rarely correct, and should be fixed before submitting your scan.4. Some other things to watch out for:a. graphic bullet points should be converted to asterisks because braille doesn't correctly handle them correctly. b. blank pages should be preserved, with the words blank page within square brackets, like this: [blank page] added to the page. Make sure to keep the page number for that page as well. c. Make sure every single page has a page number and each page has a corresponding hard page break. The page number must be on a separate line of its own on each page of text, and be either the first line or last line on each page. The page numbers do not have to be all on the top or all on the bottom of the page -- they can alternate so that sometimes the page number is the first line and sometimes the page number is the last line. d. Make sure the book you've scanned has a copyright page. If it doesn't it will get rejected no matter how great the scan is. e. Check that your OCRing hasn't put paragraphs breaks in the wrong places. Some OCRing packages will put a paragraph break at the end of every single line of text on a page, instead of just at the ends of paragraphs where they are supposed to be.Most importantly, don't be overwhelmed by all of this and keep asking plenty of questions! smile. Every volunteer here had to start out as a newbie and learn how to do this. It can feel at first like you've been served an elephant for dinner, so take a deep breath and just take one bite at a time!Judy s.Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese <https://twitter.com/QuackersNCheese>On 6/26/2014 6:59 PM, Kim Friedman wrote:Hi Deb, sometimes headers and footers are either the book title and the author's name. If you see those, you can strip them. If you see a chapter number or title, then you only want those on the actual first page of a chapter. Subsequent pages don't need them. I'd also think if the chapter has sections in them, then you only want a particular section title to occur on the first page of the section and not on another page which is in the same section (do you follow me?). With regard to font, you want to make sure you have a font which is readable for the whole book (Bookshare likes Times New Roman with titles at 20-point, Parts at 18-point, Chapter titles at 16-point, sub-sections or sections at 14-point, actual body of the whole text at 12-point, Author's name at 20-point. (With regard to font, the real consideration is that it be readable so Times New Roman or Arial, or anything which is really clear to read is important.) Page setup should be legal or custom size, margins (I'd go for narrow (1.0 or 1.25 all round). Paragraph setup for the body of the text is generally on the left. I know what I used to do for paragraphs with regard to proofreading a document and I can send you my procedure for it, but I think other submitters will be better at giving you more specific information about what to do about paragraphs in your text. I hope what I've mentioned so far helps you out. Regards, Kim Friedman. -----Original Message----- From:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gmail For Deb Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:11 PM To: Bookshare Volunteer List Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ok, I'm confused! What's next? He you scanners and proofers, I just finished scanning in my first book. This includes doing ocr on it, and running through the spelling check that OmniPage provides. There are formatting things that seem important to me, but I'm not sure just how to go about getting things right. Do I need to change the font and or size of text from what came out? There are boxed off sections of text that are like sidebars, too. Is there a way to identify them as such? I've seen several of you mention headers. In this case, the headers are the page numbers and chapter title. What do I do about that? I understood that I was supposed to keep page numbers. What about margins? Do I maintain them, or can I just set a standard margin for the whole book? What about any center aligned text I come across? Finally, I'd like some input on how to insert the diagram description text. All help will be greatly appreciated! I am sorry for my ignorance, but I'll learn! Deb Outland Lexington, Kentucky To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. 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