Let me say that I have seen sidebars that do nothing but repeat the exact words that some part of the text already said. In that case they contribute nothing and I think they can be deleted. By the way, Deb, it sounds like you picked a tough book for your first scan. I would have picked another one until I got the hang of it. Uh, that is, I would have picked another one if I had known what I was getting into. My first scan had little problems like photos of newspaper articles that were printed diagonally. That is not something a beginner should tackle, but I did anyway.
On 6/26/2014 9:43 PM, Judy s. wrote:
Hi Deb, Kim's suggestion regarding sidebars is great. I've done many books with sidebars and I do the following in addition to what Kim said.Separate the text of the book from the text of the sidebar by putting three asterisks on a line by themself, one set before the text contained within the sidebar, one set after. Then, on the line of text where the sidebar begins, put the word Sidebar in as Kim suggests, but put that word inside of square brackets. Also, keep the text that's in the sidebar on the actual page of text where it appears, but it's perfectly reasonable to move where it falls within that page so that it doesn't break up a paragraph. Sidebars rarely are embedded into the middle of a paragraph in the original printed text. That's why they're called "sidebars" -- they are a column of text or box of text that appears to one side or the other of the normal printed text for a page. smile. The way they get embedded in an OCRed scan is usually an artifact of how OCRing and scanning works.Here's an example then of what you want the page to be: paragraph of text paragraph of text *** [sidebar:] text from sidebar *** paragraph of text I hope that makes sense. smile.In regards to working with the file in .rtf format, that definitely makes sense. Whatever editor you use (Kurzweil and Microsoft Word are the two that most volunteers use if they are working on a windows system), though, make certain that it retains the page breaks that Omnipage has preserved in your scanned files. Some editors that can work with .rtf files (like Wordpad) strip out the hard page breaks, which you don't want an editor to do.Judy s.Follow me on Twitter at QuackersNCheese <https://twitter.com/QuackersNCheese>On 6/26/2014 8:24 PM, Kim Friedman wrote:Hi Deb, with regard to sidebars, I can't advise you since I have proofread fiction and not non-fiction. I've dealt with appendices, footnotes, casts of characters, but not sidebars. Probably what you'd do is write Sidebar with a colon after it and proceed to make sure what's in the sidebar. I personally think if sidebars are located within a paragraph of text, I probably would prefer to read the whole paragraph of the text, then read the sidebar connected to it. I do not know what other submitters would say, but the question arises about whether sidebars are located in such a way as to make sense. Again, I don't know what other submitters will say. With regard to working the format in .rtf, it sounds like a good idea, especially if you're saving your file as an .rtf file. As for me, I generally open the file and proofread it in Word, but I have used Kurzweil when Word was being squirrelly. Regards, Kim Friedman. -----Original Message----- From:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gmail For Deb Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 5:18 PM To:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ok, I'm confused! What's next? Thanks, Kim! Yes it gives me some parts to work on tomorrow. Do you typically work in word, or some other text editor? OmniPage has a text editor, but I'd rather not rely on the export of the book into rtf to just work without more tweaking afterwards. It seems like it would be better to do manipulation of the file in actual rtf format in an editor that plays nicely with it. The one other item that would be helpful to know before I start is how to treat those boxed sections that are kind of like sidebars. They are at least sometimes guided meditations that fit the general section of the book, but are placed (I believe) right out in the middle of the main flow of the book. Any suggestions? Again, thanks! Deb Outland Lexington, KentuckyOn Jun 26, 2014, at 7:59 PM, "Kim Friedman"<kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Deb, sometimes headers and footers are either the book title and the author's name. If you see those, you can strip them. If you see a chapter number or title, then you only want those on the actual first page of a chapter. Subsequent pages don't need them. I'd also think if the chapter has sections in them, then you only want a particular section title to occur on the first page of the section and not on another page which is in the same section (do you follow me?). With regard to font, you want to make sure you have a font which is readable for the whole book (Bookshare likes Times New Roman with titles at 20-point, Parts at 18-point, Chapter titles at 16-point, sub-sections or sections at 14-point, actual body of the whole text at 12-point, Author's name at 20-point. (With regard to font, the real consideration is that it be readable so Times New Roman or Arial, or anything which is really clear to read is important.) Page setup should belegal or custom size, margins (I'd go for narrow (1.0 or 1.25 all round).Paragraph setup for the body of the text is generally on the left. I know what I used to do for paragraphs with regard to proofreading a document and I can send you my procedure for it, but I think other submitters will be better at giving you more specific information about what to do about paragraphs in your text. I hope what I've mentionedso far helps you out.Regards, Kim Friedman.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. 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