Badges - Re: A Question For Everyone
- From: Charles Rahn <c.t.rahn@xxxxxxxx>
- To: Badges 1Badge <badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 01:00:41 -0400
The federales take our gun and cell phone when we go into the federal
courthouse here in Orlando.
Gator
From: SWColony@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 16:29:25 -0400
Subject: Badges - Re: A Question For Everyone
To: badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
CD,
That varies greatly depending on what federal facility you are
visiting. The Federal Building where my office is located allows any law
enforcement officers to carry their weapon inside the facility. Some
federal courthouses even allow it. There is no hard and fast rule.
Russell
In a message dated 8/30/2011 1:43:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
cd2u@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I
attended an event last Friday with the U. S. Dept. of Labor, put on in the
San
Francisco Federal building. Going in at 0830, I ID’d myself and told the
security I was carrying a weapon. The early morning crew let me right through
without a problem. A group of us then left at noon for a tour of an offsite
facility. When we returned, we had to repeat the screening process. This time
the day time crew was on duty and the supervisor for the building (Federal
Protection Services) happened to be standing in the lobby next to the Dept.
of
Labor reception desk. The uniform
FPS guys took my ID and told her that I had been in the earlier meeting and
was returning from the tour. She basically said no way I was getting back in
with my weapon. The uniform guys then suggested I go check my weapon at the
California Superior Court located across the street and one of FPS guys
walked
over with me to do it. He was telling me that since the shootings at Federal
buildings (Las Vegas particularly), they don’t even let the retired Feds (FBI
etc.) come into the building armed. (The private security contractors working
the early morning shift apparently didn’t know this little piece of
information.) With all the discussion that occurred my second time in, this
either hadn’t occurred since the policy was instituted (for the security
contractors) or the policy hadn’t been communicated to them properly when it
was instituted. I do have to
commend the FPS guys who really did accommodate me. They could have simply
told me I wasn’t getting back in with a weapon and not bothered with me any
further.
So
all you Feds on the list, it appears the fun goes away once you retire.
CD
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:23
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To: badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Badges - Re: A
Question For Everyone
While
I am not a fan of TSA, I do think flight security needed to be taken out of
the hands of private contractors. I also think the expansion of the FAM
program was good. DHS has some problems, but I don't think DHS is the
"boogeyman" some folks make it out to be. All in all, I don't know that
I feel "safer", but I do feel more "aware" and that makes me feel more
secure.
As
Mike pointed out, I have the luxury, as a fed, of carrying my firearm
everywhere I go, to include on commercial aircraft. I'm sure that
contributes to my feeling of well being. However, a lot of local and
state cops take advantage of LEOSA, which did not exist pre-09/11. Even
though it excludes a few places, it does allow cops to carry nationwide.
I think that helps. I also think a lot more private citizens are now
legally armed, and that also contributes to my feelings of a safer
environment.
I
definitely don't fear the government. I'm leery of it, and very aware of
it, as I think all citizens should be, but I don't fear it.
Russell
In
a message dated 8/29/2011 8:11:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CarlGlas@xxxxxxxxxxx
writes:
As
we approach the tenth anniversary of the tragedy of September 11,
2001,
I have a question to ask of each
of you.
With the creation of
Homeland Security, the Transportation Security
Administration, and all
the other federal agencies that were created
with the intentions of
making us all feel safer, do you?
Do you feel any safer or secure
today than you did on September 10, 2001?
The Badges
Law Enforcement Discussion Group - Est.
1997
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