Badges - Re: A Question For Everyone
- From: Christopher Karney <chk8093@xxxxxxx>
- To: "badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:28:52 -0500
I have found the FPS guards up there with the TSA "officers" at O'Hare and
Midway Airports in terms of incompetence. The US Marshalls are a different
breed though.
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On Aug 30, 2011, at 16:43, Mike Volling <mvolling@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This happens in Chicago as well. What annoys me there is exactly what
> happened to you: they make you leave the building, walk across the street,
> lock your weapon up there, and come back to their side of the street.
> Nothing like walking across the street in downtown Chicago in full uniform
> with an empty holster to make you feel vulnerable.
> I've never understood why they do that. I wouldn't dream of telling a
> Federal Officer he had to disarm before walking into our station. I could
> only imagine the reaction if we did, yet they have no hesitation about making
> you do it.
>
> From: C D Rowsell <cd2u@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tue, August 30, 2011 1:43:32 PM
> Subject: Badges - Re: A Question For Everyone
>
> I attended an event last Friday with the U. S. Dept. of Labor, put on in the
> San Francisco Federal building. Going in at 0830, I ID’d myself and told the
> security I was carrying a weapon. The early morning crew let me right through
> without a problem. A group of us then left at noon for a tour of an offsite
> facility. When we returned, we had to repeat the screening process. This time
> the day time crew was on duty and the supervisor for the building (Federal
> Protection Services) happened to be standing in the lobby next to the Dept.
> of Labor reception desk. The uniform FPS guys took my ID and told her that I
> had been in the earlier meeting and was returning from the tour. She
> basically said no way I was getting back in with my weapon. The uniform guys
> then suggested I go check my weapon at the California Superior Court located
> across the street and one of FPS guys walked over with me to do it. He was
> telling me that since the shootings at Federal buildings (Las Vegas
> particularly), they don’t even let the retired Feds (FBI etc.) come into the
> building armed. (The private security contractors working the early morning
> shift apparently didn’t know this little piece of information.) With all the
> discussion that occurred my second time in, this either hadn’t occurred since
> the policy was instituted (for the security contractors) or the policy hadn’t
> been communicated to them properly when it was instituted. I do have to
> commend the FPS guys who really did accommodate me. They could have simply
> told me I wasn’t getting back in with a weapon and not bothered with me any
> further.
>
> So all you Feds on the list, it appears the fun goes away once you retire.
>
> CD
>
> From: badges-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:badges-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of SWColony@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:23 AM
> To: badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Badges - Re: A Question For Everyone
>
> While I am not a fan of TSA, I do think flight security needed to be taken
> out of the hands of private contractors. I also think the expansion of the
> FAM program was good. DHS has some problems, but I don't think DHS is the
> "boogeyman" some folks make it out to be. All in all, I don't know that I
> feel "safer", but I do feel more "aware" and that makes me feel more secure.
>
> As Mike pointed out, I have the luxury, as a fed, of carrying my firearm
> everywhere I go, to include on commercial aircraft. I'm sure that
> contributes to my feeling of well being. However, a lot of local and state
> cops take advantage of LEOSA, which did not exist pre-09/11. Even though it
> excludes a few places, it does allow cops to carry nationwide. I think that
> helps. I also think a lot more private citizens are now legally armed, and
> that also contributes to my feelings of a safer environment.
>
> I definitely don't fear the government. I'm leery of it, and very aware of
> it, as I think all citizens should be, but I don't fear it.
> Russell
>
> In a message dated 8/29/2011 8:11:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> CarlGlas@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> As we approach the tenth anniversary of the tragedy of September 11,
> 2001, I have a question to ask of each
> of you.
>
> With the creation of Homeland Security, the Transportation Security
> Administration, and all the other federal agencies that were created
> with the intentions of making us all feel safer, do you?
>
> Do you feel any safer or secure today than you did on September 10, 2001?
>
>
>
>
>
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