Badges - Re: A Question For Everyone
- From: C D Rowsell <cd2u@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:43:32 -0700
I attended an event last Friday with the U. S. Dept. of Labor, put on in the
San Francisco Federal building. Going in at 0830, I ID'd myself and told the
security I was carrying a weapon. The early morning crew let me right
through without a problem. A group of us then left at noon for a tour of an
offsite facility. When we returned, we had to repeat the screening process.
This time the day time crew was on duty and the supervisor for the building
(Federal Protection Services) happened to be standing in the lobby next to
the Dept. of Labor reception desk. The uniform FPS guys took my ID and told
her that I had been in the earlier meeting and was returning from the tour.
She basically said no way I was getting back in with my weapon. The uniform
guys then suggested I go check my weapon at the California Superior Court
located across the street and one of FPS guys walked over with me to do it.
He was telling me that since the shootings at Federal buildings (Las Vegas
particularly), they don't even let the retired Feds (FBI etc.) come into the
building armed. (The private security contractors working the early morning
shift apparently didn't know this little piece of information.) With all the
discussion that occurred my second time in, this either hadn't occurred
since the policy was instituted (for the security contractors) or the policy
hadn't been communicated to them properly when it was instituted. I do have
to commend the FPS guys who really did accommodate me. They could have
simply told me I wasn't getting back in with a weapon and not bothered with
me any further.
So all you Feds on the list, it appears the fun goes away once you retire.
CD
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:23 AM
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Subject: Badges - Re: A Question For Everyone
While I am not a fan of TSA, I do think flight security needed to be taken
out of the hands of private contractors. I also think the expansion of the
FAM program was good. DHS has some problems, but I don't think DHS is the
"boogeyman" some folks make it out to be. All in all, I don't know that I
feel "safer", but I do feel more "aware" and that makes me feel more secure.
As Mike pointed out, I have the luxury, as a fed, of carrying my firearm
everywhere I go, to include on commercial aircraft. I'm sure that
contributes to my feeling of well being. However, a lot of local and state
cops take advantage of LEOSA, which did not exist pre-09/11. Even though it
excludes a few places, it does allow cops to carry nationwide. I think that
helps. I also think a lot more private citizens are now legally armed, and
that also contributes to my feelings of a safer environment.
I definitely don't fear the government. I'm leery of it, and very aware of
it, as I think all citizens should be, but I don't fear it.
Russell
In a message dated 8/29/2011 8:11:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CarlGlas@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
As we approach the tenth anniversary of the tragedy of September 11,
2001, I have a question to ask of each
of you.
With the creation of Homeland Security, the Transportation Security
Administration, and all the other federal agencies that were created
with the intentions of making us all feel safer, do you?
Do you feel any safer or secure today than you did on September 10, 2001?
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