[amayausers] Re: thead breaks

  • From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:15:21 -0400

I made the mistake of buying a couple boxes of the Melco brand black bobbin
thread-and several different people, including a melco trainer-told me there
is a lot of problems with it-because the 'black' thread itself is not the
same quality as the white thread. Same in teeshirts-white material is a
better quality because it is so visible-poorer quality material is dyed so
you can't spot the flaws...
Roland

> From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:03:36 -0600
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: thead breaks
> 
> Roland,
> 
> "black bobbin thread"........Sharon and I use Neb brand bobbins--the
> plastic sided ones and have "0" problems with them...white or black!!!
> 
> I had to do a couple hundred caps with a 15000+ stitch edsign and used
> black bobbins with them and "0" bobbin thread break with any of them.....top
> thread breaks here and there but no bobbin breads with Neb black/white
> bobbin thread.
> 
> Rod
> 
> Embroidery Cottage
> Rod & Sharon Springer
> Melco Trained Amaya Tech & Trainer
> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
> 
> Boise, ID  83713
> 208-938-3038
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:18 PM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: thead breaks
> 
> 
>> for what it's worth...
>> I found when things are really going bad:
>> check bobbin-too tight, stitches get too tight, start to break
>> too loose, thread gets loopy and looks terrible
>> crude under the tension bar, really doesn't help
>> black bobbin thread-shouldn't be on the market-anyone want a couple
> boxes?
>> if thread break continues-I look to see where it is happening-if on
> letter
>> 'corners-then I check and change autostitch or short stitch
>> if it is not that, then I increase material density 1 point at a time
> and
>> see what happens
>> increase backing-add another piece, or switch to cut away
>> solvy on top, definitely on pique
>> decrease speed
>> that's all I can tell you for now!
>> good luck...
>> 
>>> From: "image embriodery" <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:01:08 -0400
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: thead breaks
>>> 
>>> So have you found the magic combination for Inner Harbor pique???
>>> I want to throw them out the window. Stitch out wonderful on scrap
> fabric.
>>> Stitch out is horrible on the shirt.
>>> T
>>> Help...thanks!
>>> LuAnn
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 4:09 PM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: thead breaks
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Debra-another struggling beginner here...
>>>> we do a lot of pique knits because we screen print on them
> also-customers
>>>> like the 'heavier' look to the shirt.
>>>> And yes, we get the same problem-sewouts on one material don't work a
> darn
>>>> on another!
>>>> We have managed to get by this way:
>>>> solvy, YES...it's a textured material-solvy helps
>>>> backing-two layers of the heaviest tear away, and sometimes if it is a
>>>> logo
>>>> with design and lettering around that, I"ve had to use a thicker
>>>> cutaway-on
>>>> a thinner pique that seems to work. One way we figured out what to do
> is
>>>> to
>>>> compare backings on shirts and sweats my wife collects out in
>>>> Arizona-every
>>>> trip she comes back with another one her mother buys here-so we check
> to
>>>> see
>>>> how THOSE were done!
>>>> Thread breaks-still learning on this but getting better...
>>>> density 4 or higher, double check needle 'twist' (a debate last couple
>>>> weeks
>>>> on how many 'degrees' of 'turn' to the needle-instead of 'straight'
> out)
>>>> presser foot-maximum down
>>>> short stitch on or off? Still figuring out that one-sometimes it
> helps,
>>>> sometimes it doesn't. Same with auto density....got to be a 'standard'
> in
>>>> there somewhere I haven't figured out.
>>>> Underlayment-center line...we learned at training to ALWAYS have
>>>> centerline
>>>> on, but an answer to a question I put up this morning for some real
> small
>>>> lettering said NO underlayment...but depends on material-worth doing a
>>>> test
>>>> either way!
>>>> What we HAVE learned-is with rare exceptions-what sews out good on a
>>>> sweatshirt, won't work on a jacket, won't work on a pique, won't work
> on a
>>>> hat. Each material has it's own quirks-so I end up with a separate
>>>> 'design'
>>>> for each one with the changes so I don't forget them!
>>>> Hope this helps....should be someone in here shortly with more
> technical
>>>> help.
>>>> I've started printing out questions and answers from here that I need
> and
>>>> putting them in a notebook for quick reference. That way I can make
> notes
>>>> right on the page as I test it out!
>>>> Roland
>>>> 
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