[access-uk] Re: BRAILLE ON PACKAGING
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:53:25 +0100
Hi,
Depends on if the book is single or double sided, close line Braille or
almost double line spacing as a lot often are, and on and on.
All the best
Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jim McAuslan
Sent: 10 June 2014 22:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: BRAILLE ON PACKAGING
Hi Steve,
I've just received a 16 volume book in grade II Braille. I shudder to
think what that would be in uncontracted Braille. My posty would
probably go on strike and never talk to me again, grin.
Jim Mc
On 10/06/2014 21:45, Steve Nutt wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> Not to mention the word Knowledge. Many blind people couldn't spell it.
> And what idiot had the idea that there was an X in the word It.
>
> Personally, I just wish grade 2 would go away and die. I can read
> uncontracted Braille as fast as anyone I know who reads Grade 2.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> Iain Lackie
> Sent: 09 June 2014 16:41
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: BRAILLE ON PACKAGING
>
> I think it is very important that we as Braille users are aware of how
such
> print conventions are used. Using capitalisation in Braille as a default
> would definitely make this much easier. As to grade 2 Braille, there is a
> strong argument for its demise. The contractions are arbitrary to say the
> least and the different functionality of dot patterns must be a nightmare
> for learners and those writing translation programs. I should say that I
> would miss grade 2 Braille as a reader, but I think its demise might make
> Braille life a lot easier for many. And the number of times I have seen
> character misspelled because of its contraction is not insignificant. I
> suspect words such as receive may be erroneously spelled because of the
> arbitrary nature of contracted Braille.
>
> Iain
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 9 Jun 2014, at 03:56 pm, "Derek Hornby"
<derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Steve says
>
> "If we don't have caps, we have illiterate blind people who don't
> know how to write in the sighted world."
>
> If that was the case, are those that left school in the
> 1960s and 70s on average illiterate!
>
> Also, lets not forget grade 2 Braille.
> Should grade 2 Braille be allowed, given fact
> The grade 2 Braille abbreviations are not in print.
>
> So most users of grade 2 are unable to spell correctly!!!!
>
>
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
> Steve Nutt
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 11:18 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: BRAILLE ON PACKAGING
>
> Hi,
>
> I disagree.
>
> If we don't have caps, we have illiterate blind people who don't know how
to
> write in the sighterd world. They write everything in lower case. And
> don't get me started on spelling because of contracted Braille.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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