Shaun, Compliment or complement or perhaps both? Richard Richard Godfrey-McKay Telephone: 01738-445 880 Mobile: 07791 452 593 _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shaun O'Connor Sent: 08 June 2014 12:10 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: BRAILLE ON PACKAGING actually I think there is scope for print and braille to compliment each other.. On 08/06/2014 11:57, Iain Lackie wrote: I disagree. we need to be able to represent as much of print as possible in Braille. We certainly should represent capitalisation. Whether we like it or not, we live in a sighted world and Braille needs to reflect that as far as possible. If this does not happen, Braille will diminish as it comes to show less and less of what is happening in the print world. Iain Sent from my iPhone On 8 Jun 2014, at 12:26 am, "Derek Hornby" <mailto:derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: And real Braille is not print. Sadly some people are trying to make Braille more like print. We don't need to show capital letter in Braille. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 10:16 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: BRAILLE ON PACKAGING Braille is not a language. Perhaps if this misconception was laid to rest, more people might be more willing to learn. Iain Sent from my iPhone On 7 Jun 2014, at 02:03 pm, "Eleanor Martha Burke" <mailto:eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think I would put it down to an error of the person labelling not being familiar with the language of Braille and putting wrong labels on the produce rather than a deliberate breach of any Act on the part of the company. ----- Original Message ----- From: Shaun O'Connor <mailto:capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: BRAILLE ON PACKAGING As a point of interest I wonder if Braille mislabelling could count as being breach of the trades descriptions act? On 07/06/2014 13:36, carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Let us know what you find out and glad it wasn't worse! Carol P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Macrae" <mailto:ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> To: <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 12:40 PM Subject: [access-uk] BRAILLE ON PACKAGING As some of you know I was recently asked to write a piece for the Guardian on Braille and hopes for the future. In that piece I mentioned that The co-Op labels many, though not all of its own brand lines in Braille. Today, however, I found a discrepancy between the print and Braille packaging. I bought a pack of Co-Op bran flakes. Thankfully I don't have to rely solely on the Braille to identify products because the Braille said that the pack contained Golden Honey Nut Corn flakes. 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