I would think that if you can't collect right away that threatening to send the check to the proper authorities (which may differ from state to state) would shock most people into making arrangements. This is what we are supposed to do in our area (I've never had to). -- Best regards, Bil Green PC 1000 Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx Wednesday, August 4, 2004, 4:28:28 PM, you wrote: ESDSTV> In some areas you can turn it over to the police for writing bad checks. It is true people will try these scams a lot but we need to stop it in anyway possible. last time I had a check like ESDSTV> this I had to send a 10 day registered letter of intent to turn it in as a bogus check and the customer came in before that and paid it. ESDSTV> Gene ESDSTV> ----- Original Message ----- ESDSTV> From: Gary McCartney<mailto:gary@xxxxxxxxxxx> ESDSTV> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ESDSTV> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:37 AM ESDSTV> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: bad checks?? ESDSTV> Ed, I tried a collection agency once for a $65.00 repair because the ESDSTV> cheque was NSF. The collection agency tried a couple of times and just ESDSTV> gave up, telling me to forget about it. ESDSTV> Gary McCartney ESDSTV> McCartney Electronics ESDSTV> Guelph Ontario Canada ESDSTV> Est. 1984 ESDSTV> email: gary (at) number63.ca ESDSTV> Tel-Tek Electronics wrote: ESDSTV> > No 1.....Lawyers will not bother with a $75 recovery. No money in it for ESDSTV> > them. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > No 2....Was check stopped or NSF. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > No 3....This is a scam. True he could have done the same with a Credit ESDSTV> > Card, but Credit Card companies keep track of this type of stuff. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > Remedy....I get calls from Collection Agencies every 2 or 3 months, ESDSTV> > asking me if I have any bad debts to collect. They normally get 20 to ESDSTV> > 25% of the total. In this case I would submit it, expecting "nothing" in ESDSTV> > return, just for the principle of the thing. These people will hound him ESDSTV> > on a regular basis, and if nothing comes of it, will submit it to the ESDSTV> > Credit Bureau. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > Stop Payment on a check, is a nice way to scam businesses, but ESDSTV> > if he has not given you a chance to ratify the problem...(if there even ESDSTV> > is a problem), then you are giving him the indication that this is a ESDSTV> > good way to get Goods and Service. Let hi try that with the Gas Company, ESDSTV> > because the gas has a funny smell, they would just cut off the Service, ESDSTV> > so he would not have to smell it anymore. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > Give the account to a collection agency, and my guess is, after ESDSTV> > the first phone call from them....he will be in to see you. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > Forget about Small Claims court, more time wasted, and he may ESDSTV> > not even show up, you will have the judgment, but still no money. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > Do us all a favor, and go after the SOB. This may just be another way to ESDSTV> > subsidize his Income, if he has any. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > Writing a Check is a promissory agreement with the seller and ESDSTV> > buyer that Goods and Service will be covered. He defaulted on his part, ESDSTV> > the same as if you had given him 30 days guarantee on your Service and ESDSTV> > had not followed up. ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > Sic him....Make his life a living hell.;-) ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > -Ed- ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > Tel-Tek Electronics ESDSTV> > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ESDSTV> > Ontario-Canada ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > -----Original Message----- ESDSTV> > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ESDSTV> > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of larry ESDSTV> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:15 AM ESDSTV> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ESDSTV> > Subject: [TechAssist] bad checks?? ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > i had an experience i didnt know how to solve. ESDSTV> > i repaired a tv, customer picked up and paid 75 with check. ESDSTV> > 10 days later i get a letter from my bank saying they withdrew ESDSTV> > the 75 from my account because the check was stop payment. ESDSTV> > i called the customer and would always be told the man wasnt home, ESDSTV> > finally i did talk to him a week later. ESDSTV> > he said he stooped payment because he didnt think it was good ESDSTV> > enough picture. ESDSTV> > i said why didnt you call me , or bring it back , so i could ESDSTV> > make it right. ESDSTV> > at least let me have my parts back. ESDSTV> > he said no. ESDSTV> > and that i should take him to court for the 75 if i like. and ESDSTV> > hung up. ESDSTV> > i contacted my attorney, who said forget it , you been screwed. ESDSTV> > the set probably works fine and he knows you cant afford to ESDSTV> > sue him. ESDSTV> > and since then i found that he could have also stooped payment ESDSTV> > on a credit card if he had used one. ESDSTV> > are there any answers to this type of problem??? ESDSTV> > Larry ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> > ESDSTV> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESDSTV> Lost Password: ESDSTV> http://www.tech-assist.org<http://www.tech-assist.org/> and select "Login Problems?". 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