Richard - While there are a small number (in percentage terms) of exception, in the vast majority of the cases property tax is progressive. You (and I) lived in a rarefied world of atypical locations/appreciation till the bubble burst, but relatively few experience these inequities compared with the total pool of folks who own property. In other words, this is another top 3-4% scenario, just like the Estate Tax is... While the US tax system is certainly not perfect, it is certainly generally progressive... Eric Goldstein -- On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Goldstein" <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 5:12 PM > Subject: [rollei_list] OT Estate Tex (was Re: Copyright Law) > > > Hi Austin - > > Then for the benefit of the rest of our readers who are likely not so > conversant in US Estate Law, let's get accurate information out there. > The tax to which you refer only effects the very wealthiest of all > Americans, the top 3-4% I would guess. The US tax structure is > basically a progressive one, and those who are able to pay more are > generally called upon to do so with their income tax, property tax, > and estate tax. At least that the law intends. > > > Eric Goldstein > > While I agree with you in general I don't think property tax is really a > progressive tax. While it increases with the value of the property that is > not always consonant with the wealth of the owner and certainly not with > income. A case in point is the tremendous increase in assesed value of real > property in the period from around the early 1960s to the 1970s. The > valuation was increased because property values, especially those for homes, > was driven up by speculators. The result was that many could no longer > afford to live in homes they had owned for many years. This was one of the > main reasons that the notorious proposition 13 was passed in 1978. It > prevented an increase in tax value of a primary residence until it was sold. > Prop 13 had many other sections and was IMO bad legislation but the > limitation in the increase of property tax on private homes did make some > sense. If incomes were tied to home values there would have been no problem > but it isn't always the case. > Commercial property is different although steep increases in property > taxes can drive some business out of existance. > IMO income tax is the only really progressive tax. However it has become > such a bugaboo to politicians that they will propose any sort of hidden tax > or regressive tax, like sales taxes, instead. Government does need income > because the citizens demand services but people think it should all be free. > > -- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the > subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the > subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list