RE: salary idea

  • From: "Taylor, Chris David" <ChrisDavid.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'mwkillough@xxxxxxxxxxx'" <mwkillough@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'gabriel.hanauer@xxxxxxxxx'" <gabriel.hanauer@xxxxxxxxx>, 'oracle-l' <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:02:23 -0500

It would be interesting to see the statistics on the numbers of DBAs from each 
country I think.

Perhaps if there are a larger number of American DBAs per capita then the 
statistical probability of meeting a bad American DBA would go up, right?  Same 
for the other countries.  If there are 50 DBAs per capita in/from India, and 
there are 500 DBAs per capita in /from America wouldn't the probability of 
meeting a "bad" DBA in/from America be higher?  It's been a while since I 
studied statistics and probabilities...but I think it would have a bearing on 
this conversation.

As an American I've run into a fair number of unqualified "DBAs" running around 
here, but I've ran into an unusual amount of talented DBAs as well.



Chris Taylor
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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mike Killough
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:56 AM
To: gabriel.hanauer@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l
Subject: RE: salary idea

Wow, being an American and working with only Americans and Indians, I didn't 
realize that European DBAs were superior. Thanks for sharing your insights with 
us. I think this thread is getting a bit out of control.

Mike


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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:26:54 -0300
Subject: Re: salary idea
From: gabriel.hanauer@xxxxxxxxx
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

I agree with you.
Today I am working with europeans and I used to work with americans and 
indians. And I have to say to you that we have really good guys here compared 
to them.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Guillermo Alan Bort 
<cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
As a Service Delivery DBA I take offense to that. It is my experience (with 
europeans) that their skills are not great, they work extremeley short hours, 
take vacation time every 2 months and earn about 5-10 times what I earn 
delivering a very good service (not me alone, of course). So, having local DBAs 
may feel better, but there is a very high level of skills out there and for a 
very low cost... specially for 24x7 active coverage.

And 10-30k sounds right for offshoring DBA services with a reasonable level of 
expertise.

cheers.
Alan.-

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Nuno Souto 
<dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I can offshore it for less than that.
But I thought we were talking about a job that requires certain technical and 
IT qualifications, not just picking bananas...

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fmhabash wrote,on my timestamp of 17/06/2010 1:28 AM:

Heck ...
I can off-shore this job for 10-30k a year!!!
Sounds too funny, but real .In my previous company, the decision was made to 
stop hiring in north America. These are the numbers I was seeing on the the HR 
requests.


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