RE: salary idea

From: "Dunbar, Norman" <norman.dunbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx>, <dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:13:08 +0100
Hi Alan,

>> It is my 
>> experience (with Europeans) that their skills are not great, 
Ouch! I agree that *my* skills could be better, that's why I pay lots of
my own money to educate and train myself. I still need to get better
though.

>> they work extremely short hours, take vacation time every 2 
>> months 
Every three, surely? 
And short hours? 07:30 to 17:30 most days here. Weekends and all
nighters as and when necessary.
24/7 on-call as well, one week in 'n', when 'n' = the number of DBAs we
have here at the time.

>> and earn about 5-10 times what I earn delivering a 
>> very good service (not me alone, of course).
I cannot comment, I know not what you earn, where you live, what a good
wage is where you are etc. I make less now, as a contractor, than I did
as a permanent DBA in a past life. I take the job, not the money.

The problem with making a sweeping generalisation, without backing it up
with evidence, is just that, it is sweeping and generalised - and
invariably incorrect. (Or, was that another sweeping generalisation from
me?)

>> And 10-30k sounds right for off shoring DBA services with a 
>> reasonable level of expertise.
I would say that the old adage of "you get what you pay for" counts. I'm
dealing today with a "DBA" at a very large (American) support company
(three letters, not HAL, but close enough) who cannot do an import
unless s/he gets a FULL export. Can't cope with a USER level export. Go
figure. We are paying this company money for such "support".

So, there are good and bad in all walks of life, where you live and work
affects what you get paid etc etc. Not all off shore companies are bad,
not all are good. The same can be said for "local" support companies.

And I didn't take offence (offense?) at your "unskilled Europeans"
comment, I can sense your frustration.

Cheers,
Norman.





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