RE: salary idea

  • From: "Matthew Zito" <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <post.ethan@xxxxxxxxx>, "Bellows, Bambi (Comsys)" <bbel5@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:28:15 -0400

Ethan,

 

We're a company whose business is driving efficiency in the database
tier through software - and what we've found is that people have cut so
deep already, there's nothing left to cut, and they're actually turning
to software like ours just so they can keep up with the business
obligations they have.  These people want to automate, but not so they
can reduce the number of DBAs, just so they can keep their heads above
water.

 

I think there is an increasing demand, as lots of organizations that put
projects on hold in 2009 are starting to execute on them in 2010, and
accordingly not only do a lot of shops only have enough team to keep the
lights on today, but they are scrambling to do all of the upgrades,
refreshes, migrations, new app deployments that didn't get done in 2009.
I have lots of customers that are trying to hire, and I'm a firm
believer that no matter how bad the economy gets, the really top-notch
folks are hard to find.

 

Matt

 

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Subject: Re: salary idea

 

If that is the case and perhaps it is it can only mean that demand is
increasing and supply is decreasing, or we are seeing inflation. Since I
believe we are currently in a deflationary cycle the latter is not
likely. If salaries are on the rise I would not expect that to hold true
for long. For one, there are still many areas of our profession that can
still be commoditized and there are now and will continue to be
financial pressures from the economy to continue to cut costs and to
drive out inefficiency. Think Oracle doesn't have plans to manage your
databases? Just because they can't do it today don't think they won't be
able to someday and that they don't have bright people thinking about
how to do it. What is going to drive all this is the struggling economy
which I believe is going to continue for many years to come. The other
issue is the economy, there is no real recovery (my opinion) and we are
headed into many years of trouble. This means less spending in all non
governmental sectors, less investment and high unemployment. That is
lower demand and higher supply. All of this is going to add up to lower
salaries in the future. If salaries do go higher it will be when
inflation eventually kicks in and your buying power will not be any
higher.

Fun conversation, hopefully I did not stray too much off topic. I have
been studying economics for the past couple years as a hobby. If any of
this interests you and you are looking for one good blogger to read on
this subject I would recommend Mish Shedlock (just google Mish). There
is also a good Google Talk by Mish on youtube.




On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Bellows, Bambi (Comsys)
<bbel5@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Actually, I'm with Kellyn.  The price of DBAs is finally heading back
up.

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