Hi, All, I think that some of the reasons for many not using the Optacon are the = noise and the vibration. That's why I hope that some means of tactile = delivery can be found that will do away with both. Mark Blier ------------------------------ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:44 AM Subject: Re: Switching Back Hi All, I haven't jumped in here, yet. But, all these uses for the Optacon are=20 great. I use my Optacon to look at labels on frozen meat. When they wrap fresh = meat at the grocery store, often the label is stuck on to hold the paper = closed and goes around the edge of the package. The KNFB Reader will = read=20 these labels if they're relatively flat on the package. But, when the=20 writing is at an odd angle, because of the shape of the package, nothing = else will work. I just pulled out my Optacon and checked the package I=20 found in the freezer. In seconds, I knew it was ground beef. It really is sad that more people didn't learn to use this wonderful = little=20 machine. Cindy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Lerae Olesen" <lerae@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:44 PM Subject: Re: Switching Back Hi all, Mark, you had a really extensive list of things to do with the Optacon. = I concur with all of them, but wonder how you use it to tell if a light is = on or off, and also about stains on clothing. How does that work? Lerae Olesen (please note spelling, pronounced LaRay Olson) To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the = quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a = message=20 to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the=20 quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the = quotes) in the message subject. =20 Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a = message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the = quotes) in the message subject. =20 To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.