I forgot about flipping the inverse switch. It's odd, it is easy to forget the motions your hands have learned that you don't even have to think of for how something gets done, it just becomes part of you. That organic seamlessness of the Optacon, like a light probe, or white cane, is one of the reasons I so dearly love it--it is part of me... Nick On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:48:54 -0500, W. Nick Dotson wrote: A stain feels like a pattern that isn't part of the pattern of color one finds on the rest of the material. The light is the buz when the camera is up and the threshold low, a light in the lense aperature will buzz the array. Nick On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:44:35 -0500, Lerae Olesen wrote: Hi all, Mark, you had a really extensive list of things to do with the Optacon. I concur with all of them, but wonder how you use it to tell if a light is on or off, and also about stains on clothing. How does that work? Lerae Olesen (please note spelling, pronounced LaRay Olson) To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.