Bob Miller wrote: > Are you sure that those are new installed antennas in > Italy or antennas from analog days? I'll give you three examples in Tuscany. Let's go for the beautiful old town of Siena, up on a hill among gorgeous vineyards. http://www.dgtvi.it/dgtvi/copertura.aspx?TRS_ID=1550000&PROVID=81&CITYID =6897&CS=1 There are at least three azimuths involved if you want all the multiplexes. In this case, mostly horizontal polarization, although you might need vertical for Channel 55, depending on your location. Let's go due south of there, to the coast, to Orbetello. Here you have a tall, picturesque mountain right on the coast (Monte Argentario), with a bunch of translators on its peak. So you'd think piece of cake, right? http://www.dgtvi.it/dgtvi/copertura.aspx?TRS_ID=1550000&PROVID=38&CITYID =4779&CS=1 Not exactly. First problem is that even if you can use only the Argentario translators, some multiplexes are vertically polarized and others are horizontal. The other problem is that in some locations, you will need to use a different translator, on a different peak, for the Mediaset 1 multiplex. The coverage is not 100 percent from Monte Argentario for some of these multiplexes. My guess is that the low ERP is the problem. Go north to Pisa (with leaning tower). http://www.dgtvi.it/dgtvi/copertura.aspx?TRS_ID=1550000&PROVID=64&CITYID =5283&CS=1 Here you have at least two azimuths to contend with, and maybe three. All horizontal polarization. In major cities, like Rome, you'll be able to go to one azimuth for all stations. And again, when prefessionals install your antennas, as they typically do, they know where to point them and they have the right equipment. You aren't expected to figure this out on your own. > I disagree with your assessment that 8-VSB receivers were > adequate 4.5 years ago. That may have been slightly exaggerated. The first 4th/5th gen chipsets were in quantity production by 3rd quarter of 2003, which is a little less than 4 years ago. The fact that these were not available in STBs, but instead only in integrated sets, is a question for the CE manufacturers, and the NAB that didn't kick their *sses. It took from late 2003 to early 2007 to start seeing the first STBs on store shelves that were beyond 3rd gen. That must set a record for CE indifference. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.