[opendtv] Re: Copps proposes more FCC action
- From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:24:27 -0700
Time to get a grip, guys. First off, the ATSC will not declare the
transition a success; it has other news scheduled for that day.
Congresscirtters will do the job - regardless of the actual situation -
declare the transition a success, so they can spend the money from the
auctions.
Late last week, Galveston, TX, in advance of Hurricane Ike, declared a
"mandatory evacuation" with 20-foot ocean surge from the hurricane expected
to wash over the barrier island. That's third-story wet; not as bad as what
happened in 1900, but still bad. By the way, there is no such thing as a
mandatory evacuation, but the way. The mayor said that those remaining -
even on the third floor - faced "certain death."
20,000 people (or more) remained. The surge was only about 11 feet - second
floor wet. Now, they have no food, no electricity, no sewage, no a/c.
These people were amply warned, and they risked their life. Imagine if the
government charged $80 to cross the causeway back to the mainland, but he
feds gave you a $40 off coupon.
The funny part is that - last time I heard - Nielsen still plans to do
ratings (a sweeps month) for Feb 2009. Ratings will be down. People at
stations will be laid off a few months later.
All that is left is the whining. Prison directors whining that they can't
get coupons to replace their television sets. Boo-hoo. Take it out of
guard overtime. Prisons aren't households, and congress limited the coupons
to households, thinking that government agencies can take care of their own.
Nor did bars get coupons.
The transition will be a success, Tom, when analog sunsets on schedule. All
you guys talk about was predicted and predictable in 1996. Time to "move
on."
John Willkie
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Enviado el: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:56 AM
Para: opendtv
Asunto: [opendtv] Re: Copps proposes more FCC action
Tom Barry wrote:
"
I assume in February the ATSC will also declare the
switchover a success, no matter what actually happens.
Though I don't think it will be an absolute disaster on
the first day, except in the urban canyons. Most people
will look around and say, "there, that's not so bad as
we worried about".
"
I believe in the NTSC incomparable robustness and its massive inertia, so
that the "hard date" must goes to be delayed again.
The analog switch television in a Continental Country like USA remembers me
an Aesop's Fable:
Belling the Cat
http://www.aesops-fables.org.uk/aesop-fable-belling-the-cat.htm
Jonas, from Brazil
> Maybe 10 years of DTV broadcasting but if you go the www.atsc.org they
> are celebrating the success of their 25'th anniversary meeting!
>
> =========================
> Thank you for making the
> ATSC 25th Anniversary Celebration &
> Annual Meeting
> a huge success!
> =========================
>
> I assume in February the ATSC will also declare the switchover a
> success, no matter what actually happens.
>
> Though I don't think it will be an absolute disaster on the first day,
> except in the urban canyons. Most people will look around and say,
> "there, that's not so bad as we worried about".
>
> But then as time goes by and they start to rely on it in everyday use
> they will wonder where the cheap VCR's are, and why there are still a
> couple channels they never seem to be able to get reliably with their
> current antenna. They will then be told to get a roof top rotor or move
> to cable.
>
> And I suspect as more time goes on there will also be questions about
> why other countries seem to on average be getting a lot higher usable
> bit rate on OTA mobile channels, if there are any here.
>
> This eventually will lead to abandoning 8vsb for first OTA mobile, then
> OTA everything. But the new standard will be called OTA mobile to save
> face. This will give the ATSC.org enough to keep them happy and busy
> lobbying for another 25 years. ;-)
>
> - Tom
>
>
> Bob Miller wrote:
> > The idea that the Wilmington experience was "bad" or good depends on
> > what you consider your starting point. The FCC and you consider just
> > getting past the transition without a riot of problems, protest or
> > whatever as good or a success. This all in a population of 7% who
> > still depend on OTA TV in a flat coastal plain.
> >
> > I have a different perspective. I think that by now, after almost 10
> > years of DTV broadcasting in the US, the actual end point of the
> > transition should have been a non event since by now success, IMO,
> > would be the fact that every home in Wilmington had at least one OTA
> > DTV device that was being used and that the average home in Wilmington
> > had around 5 or 6 OTA DTV receivers.
> >
> > Success would be defined by a small article in the Fisherman's Post
> > Newspaper reminding people of that little known event called analog
> > turnoff and just how much of a non-event it had turned out to be.
> >
> > Bob Miller
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Albert Manfredi
> > wrote:
> >> Bob Miller wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you were referring to my post I think it is on point and
> >>> very current.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe you could point out what you think is from the early
> >>> 2000s in it.
> >> No, actually I was referring to the whole rash of negative posts, that
seem frozen in time. The only "current" topic was Wilmington. Wasn't
Wilmington successful? Initially, I don't know by now, they got 104 trouble
calls from 13,000 to 15,000 OTA households. And of those, 41 percent were
about unspecified reception problems. That's bad?
> >>
> >> That aside, what comments were made that were anything resembling
current? All I saw was hyperbole.
> >>
> >> Bert
> >>
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