Hi Peter, I guess your injector(s) has got "roll" but not "pitch"! As an Elidir builder myself (not as advanced as yours) I wonder: are you feeding them from the saddle tank? If you are, I'll be interested to hear your experiences as to how warm the water gets and how they perform. Regards Dennis MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.