Ian, Don't confuse training with competence, they are very different. The trouble is that people who have been trained, then think they are competent. And in most cases they arent . Cheers Peter Just back from Japan and in one of the first planes to land at Heathrow this pm! On Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:50, I.D.PRIEST. wrote: > Ron, > > Question, if a driver is sufficiently experienced why should he need > training? > > Regards IDP > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of > arriving > safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in > sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the other, > body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What > a > Ride!" > > "Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can fly" > > Priest & Sons Model Engineers > http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Head" <ron.head@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:35 AM > Subject: [modeleng] Driver training (was Accidents) > > > Hi Alan > > This sounds a bit like the scheme operated by my club, except that we > don't > expect the training to take a year - it can be done in a single day if > the > driver is already sufficiently experienced. We also don't make a log > book > compulsory. > > Far from being put off by all this, most of our members (especially the > junior ones) are keen to be properly trained and passed out, because > they > get a certificate. This proves their credentials if they go visiting > another club, so the certificate is seen as a worthwhile goal in > itself. > > We reciprocate by allowing visiting drivers to take part in our public > running days, providing they can prove that they are passed to run at > their > "home" track. One of our drivers will do a couple of laps with the > visiting > driver, to make sure he is familiar with our signalling, after that he > is > free to enjoy himself. > > Regards > Ron Head > City of Oxford SME > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alan stepney" <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:08 AM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Accidents > > >> My club, like some others, requries drivers to have gone through a >> driver >> training programme, have the appropriate certificate, and carry a log >> book >> around for that.:- >> >> This year's training schedule will include: >> Learning to prepare a steam locomotive for use on the track >> Track safety and signal >> Cleaning and placing 'on-shed' a locomotive after use >> Driving and control of a 'diesel' >> Correct use of signals and official duties of station control and >> guard >> Driving with passengers >> >> The Driver training scheme is intended to prepare drivers for running >> trains safely on public running days. Included in the training is a >> log-book to be maintained by each trainee signifying hours spent >> driving >> on >> any track with any locomotive. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the > subject > line. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/414 - Release Date: > 09/08/2006 > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the > subject line. Sent from my Sidekick. Please cc to peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.