[lit-ideas] Re: At War with Ourselves
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:20:20 -0800
I looked at your sites. The following from UNESCO is clearer about the
status of multiculturalism in France:
http://portal.unesco.org/shs/en/ev.php-URL_ID=2779
<http://portal.unesco.org/shs/en/ev.php-URL_ID=2779&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECT
ION=201.html> &URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html This abstract will
refer you to page 77 of a 104 page report on Multiculturalism from the
International Journal on Multicultural Societies, (IJMS), Vol 5, No. 1.
France is described as a de-facto Multicultural society. One of your
articles says they aren't really; which is what I wrote. The French boots
on the ground don't accept multiculturalism. I used a French word "sabots"
rather than boots or galoshes, but I assumed that sentence would be
understood.
I still don't know what your problem is. France wanted to be a
Multicultural society. Multiculturalism fits one of the modern Liberal
ideals. Multiculturalism doesn't work. It isn't working in France and it
isn't working in Holland. I don't believe it will work anyplace.
Lawrence
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On Behalf Of JUDITH EVANS
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:50 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: At War with Ourselves
Ah. I see. Your ideas about France and multiculturalism come from
frontpagemag.com. It's my sense that they either don't understand the
French *anti* multicultural heritage or seek to ignore it.
I quote someone whose politics I don't know, who does seem to know about
France:
" The essential point is that multiculturalism has never been tried in
France. On the contrary, France's problems are a manifestation of the
failure of its flawed attempt at integration over half a century or so. "
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/11/14/1131951095194.html
Below is an indirect link (search hit 1) to a piece by Marty Schain
("Politics, immigration and multiculturalism in France and the United
States"): you might find it instructive.
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=France+%2Bmulticulturalism+%2BSchain
<http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=France+%2Bmulticulturalism+%2BSchain&pr
ssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=my-vert-web-top&x=wrt&meta=vc%3D>
&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=my-vert-web-top&x=wrt&meta=vc%3D
Judy Evans, Cardiff
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