Horror, > Anyway, it seems to be a group I should join. I'm pining for a > nice flame-war, and being a commie, great fan of france and > generally nuts, my joining it would be enough to start a > chain-reaction. Nuclear, I'll bet;-). > > It is a fact that current world news and current affairs are > > centered around the U.S. and its involvement in certain > > conflicts in certain areas, and so Richard and I wished to > > discuss these things, but, for the few members on the OT list > > who hailed from the U.S., no such discussion could take place > > without it being interpreted as an attack on the American > > people as a whole. Criticism of George = criticism of all, > > they seemed to think, and would reply with the most > > horrendous vitriol. > Hmm, seems to me a rather accurate description of Meph, the > group owner - I guess you're in trouble. Uh, to which statement to you refer? I see no correlation;-). > > I have the deepest respect for the American people and the > > great things they have achieved, so I hope that if the > > subject should come up here of U.S. policy or politics, any > > Americans or people who support American policy or actions > > will understand that my concerns come from heartfelt desires > > for peace and prosperity for all people, and will refrain > > from treating me as if I were some apologist for terrorists > > and/or simply some elitist knee-jerk anti-American fanatic. > Hm. I think that we anti-americans should get rid of the > somewhat bad habit of acclaiming the U.S. and it's people > before we criticise it. You know, I'm really looking forward to my first holiday from teaching in Poland to visit Vienna. Think you & I will have a good natured brawl at your favourite pub?:-) > Of course, nationalist drones of every country will assume > exactly that the instant you say something diverging from their > views, but that's not to be helped, and I prefer to just assume > I'm talking with normal people, ready to accept criticism as > coming from a background of good will and respect. Whoever > isn't capable of separating the current set of leaders and > politics from nearly everything else probably isn't worth > talking to anyway. Which brings us back to why I have no problem with OT posts. We here are all pretty respectful of each other's views & are still friends after many debates (although I'm rather radical in my politics & have no great allegiance to the US, hence, Horror, Godwin, & I get along;-). One new person already unsub'd because he didn't "get it". Good for him. There are lists upon lists. Let all go where they will feel most comfortable. Meph -- O Lord, grant that we may always be right, for Thou knowest we will never change our minds. To unsubcribe send e-mail with the word unsubscribe in the body to: Linux-Anyway-Request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?body=unsubscribe