[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Problems with making liblouis
- From: Greg Kearney <gkearney@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 13:38:26 -0700
Yes it is installed and active:
gkearney:~ gkearney$ port installed | grep pkgconfig
pkgconfig @0.28_0 (active)
Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
Greg Kearney, General Manager
605 Robson Street, Suite 850
Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
CANADA
Email: info@xxxxxxxxx
U.S. Address
21908 Almaden Av.
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Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
On May 13, 2014, at 12:34 PM, David Sweetman <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Is pkgconfig installed through Macports? You can check with:
>
> port installed | grep pkgconfig
>
> for me, with pkgconfig installed through macports, `echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH`
> gives the macports location:
>
> /opt/local/lib/pkgconfig
>
> if pkgconfig is installed through macports and /opt/local/lib/pkgconfig
> already exists for you, try adding that location to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH
> environment variable. This can be done temporarily on the command line, or
> applied every time a new shell is opened by putting something like this line
> in your ~/.profile:
>
> export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH
>
> If pkgconfig is not installed through macports, it may be simplest to install
> it that way, so try:
>
> sudo port install pkgconfig
>
> With pkgconfig installed through macports and the PKG_CONFIG_PATH set up as
> above, I’ve built liblouisutdml successfully, here are the steps I used:
>
> $ ./autogen.sh
> $ ./configure --disable-java-bindings
> $ make
> $ make install
>
> I haven’t tried using the resulting binaries, but I get no errors and the
> file2brl binary is created in tools/.
>
>
> On May 13, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Greg Kearney <gkearney@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Nothing in ~/.bashrc
>> Nothing in ~/.bash_profile
>> Nothing in /etc/bash.bashrc
>>
>> Content of ~/.profile
>> # MacPorts Installer addition on 2014-02-11_at_10:41:13: adding an
>> appropriate PATH variable for use with MacPorts. export
>> PATH=/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:$PATH # Finished adapting your PATH
>> environment variable for use with MacPorts.
>>
>> Content of /etc/profile
>> # System-wide .profile for sh(1)
>>
>> if [ -x /usr/libexec/path_helper ]; then
>> eval `/usr/libexec/path_helper -s`
>> fi
>>
>> if [ "${BASH-no}" != "no" ]; then
>> [ -r /etc/bashrc ] && . /etc/bashrc
>> fi
>>
>>
>> serially folks if I am having this much trouble getting this to work it
>> should be telling us something.
>>
>> Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
>> Greg Kearney, General Manager
>> 605 Robson Street, Suite 850
>> Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
>> CANADA
>> Email: info@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> U.S. Address
>> 21908 Almaden Av.
>> Cupertino, CA 95014
>> UNITED STATES
>> Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 13, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Bert Frees <bertfrees@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That path makes no sense at all. Is there something in your ~/.bashrc,
>>> ~/.bash_profile, ~/.profile, /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile?
>>>
>>> Greg Kearney writes:
>>>
>>>> Here is what it is set to:
>>>>
>>>> gkearney:liblouisutdml-2.5.0 gkearney$ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH
>>>> /usr/local/bin:
>>>>
>>>> Where should one find the script that set it?
>>>>
>>>> Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
>>>> Greg Kearney, General Manager
>>>> 605 Robson Street, Suite 850
>>>> Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
>>>> CANADA
>>>> Email: info@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> U.S. Address
>>>> 21908 Almaden Av.
>>>> Cupertino, CA 95014
>>>> UNITED STATES
>>>> Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 13, 2014, at 10:15 AM, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Greg,
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing lacking is to set the PKG_config_path environment
>>>>> variable. I'm not sure what its value should be on your version of Mac
>>>>> OSX, so I won't cause you more frustration by giving a possible setting.
>>>>> There should be a script that sets it. This would be run before the
>>>>> configure command.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 09:02:27AM -0700, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>>>> OK here is the problem and it always shows up in building liblouisutdml,
>>>>>> libelous itself build find on a stock Mac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First I configure, make, make install liblouis everything is fine and
>>>>>> the various tools work as expected, even the python binding work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next I go to build liblouisutdml. I run configure and it dies with the
>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
>>>>>> checking for BASE_DEPENDENCIES... configure: error: Package requirements
>>>>>> (liblouis, libxml-2.0) were not met:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No package 'libxml-2.0' found
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
>>>>>> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternatively, you may set the environment variables
>>>>>> BASE_DEPENDENCIES_CFLAGS
>>>>>> and BASE_DEPENDENCIES_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
>>>>>> See the pkg-config man page for more details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you can see I have pkg-config installed, I should have the liblouis
>>>>>> installed as well as I just built and installed it and it tested OK.
>>>>>> Further I have the libxml-2.0 installed in /Library/Frameworks and they
>>>>>> test OK as well. So my question is what do I do to get liblouisutdml to
>>>>>> install and build.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way I have an installer that will install and test the libxml-2.0
>>>>>> frameworks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
>>>>>> Greg Kearney, General Manager
>>>>>> 605 Robson Street, Suite 850
>>>>>> Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
>>>>>> CANADA
>>>>>> Email: info@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> U.S. Address
>>>>>> 21908 Almaden Av.
>>>>>> Cupertino, CA 95014
>>>>>> UNITED STATES
>>>>>> Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 13, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Bert Frees <bertfrees@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay so how do we proceed? TBH I still think it shouldn't be that hard
>>>>>>> for a Perl or Python programmer to get it working. If it is then there's
>>>>>>> something missing in the documentation. How about we try to get it
>>>>>>> working for you, then update the documentation, and then see if maybe we
>>>>>>> need to update your Mac interface? I have relatively recent precompiled
>>>>>>> versions of liblouis and liblouisutdml that I use in DAISY Pipeline,
>>>>>>> maybe you can use those for now? As I mentioned before on the mailing
>>>>>>> list our ultimate goal is to automatically generate nightly builds of
>>>>>>> the latest versions and make them available for download.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg Kearney writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I could of course make my installer install the programs and files in
>>>>>>>> any location. I was simply following the paths used by make install.
>>>>>>>> There could even be a choice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There could be any number of reasons why we should want to install the
>>>>>>>> program but not want to go through the process of compiling it.
>>>>>>>> Despite what you say on a Mac it is not a simple matter of configure,
>>>>>>>> make, make install particually I am an experienced user, but not a
>>>>>>>> formal programmer and I run into issues all the time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example a user might be writing a web interface that needs to call
>>>>>>>> the various binaries to do translations, a programmer working in Perl
>>>>>>>> or Python but not familiar with compiling programs might need the
>>>>>>>> binaries. Perhaps someone would just prefer to use the command line.
>>>>>>>> As John can tell you I designed a formal MacOS interface for libelous,
>>>>>>>> I would like to update this by using the more modern tools but I keep
>>>>>>>> running into the build issues that prevent me from doing so. This is
>>>>>>>> particularly the case with liblouisutdml which despite having all the
>>>>>>>> auto-config paths set up still will not build on a standard Mac as
>>>>>>>> shipped by Apple with the developer tools.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While a table development tools would be nice I agree I can not wait
>>>>>>>> about while one gets built.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
>>>>>>>> Greg Kearney, General Manager
>>>>>>>> 605 Robson Street, Suite 850
>>>>>>>> Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
>>>>>>>> CANADA
>>>>>>>> Email: info@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> U.S. Address
>>>>>>>> 21908 Almaden Av.
>>>>>>>> Cupertino, CA 95014
>>>>>>>> UNITED STATES
>>>>>>>> Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 13, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Bert Frees <bertfrees@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all, we really appreciate your efforts for making liblouis
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> easily obtainable for non-developers, and I'm sorry you have to keep
>>>>>>>>> repeating yourself to get your point across.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me start off by reminding that liblouis and liblouisutdml were
>>>>>>>>> developed as libraries intended to be used in other software with a
>>>>>>>>> proper user interface, so called frontends, such as BrailleBlaster,
>>>>>>>>> DAISY Pipeline, NVDA, etc. (correct me if I'm wrong, John). But
>>>>>>>>> indeed,
>>>>>>>>> I agree that there are certain use cases for which the existing
>>>>>>>>> frontends are not suitable. One of those use cases is table
>>>>>>>>> developers. However I have different ideas about how to solve that
>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First, I'm not convinced that table developers wouldn't be able to
>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>> liblouis from source. If they can use the liblouis tools to test the
>>>>>>>>> tables, they are expected to at least have a notion of what the
>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>> line is, so it can't be that hard to teach them configure && make &&
>>>>>>>>> make install, right? (assuming of course that they are on Linux or
>>>>>>>>> Mac.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As David said, it is mostly a matter of documenting things better. If
>>>>>>>>> you have the right tools, building liblouis from source really isn't
>>>>>>>>> hard at all. (In your particular case, the error message already gives
>>>>>>>>> you a big hint. So let's sit together, maybe meet us on the IRC
>>>>>>>>> channel,
>>>>>>>>> so that we can guide you through the process.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Second, I've never been really fond of your idea about making an
>>>>>>>>> installer that simply puts the binaries into /usr/local/. It just
>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem right. There is a reason why package managers for Mac OS
>>>>>>>>> such as fink and homebrew install the binaries in places that they
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> total control of. I would be much happier with for example an
>>>>>>>>> application bundle that would include all the necessary binaries,
>>>>>>>>> somewhere under /Applications/Louis.app/Contents/MacOS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or would there perhaps be interest in a new frontend dedicated for
>>>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>>>> developers? I would include the library and could provide a simple
>>>>>>>>> interface for testing a table with the need to use the command line.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Bert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greg Kearney writes:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I keep hearing about others building it I just can not seem to make
>>>>>>>>>> it work. I have some experiments I wish to do outside of the braille
>>>>>>>>>> blaster environment all I really want is an installer. All this
>>>>>>>>>> trouble. There has got to be a better way really.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
>>>>>>>>>> Greg Kearney, General Manager
>>>>>>>>>> 605 Robson Street, Suite 850
>>>>>>>>>> Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
>>>>>>>>>> CANADA
>>>>>>>>>> Email: info@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Address
>>>>>>>>>> 21908 Almaden Av.
>>>>>>>>>> Cupertino, CA 95014
>>>>>>>>>> UNITED STATES
>>>>>>>>>> Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2014, at 10:57 AM, John J. Boyer
>>>>>>>>>> <johnjboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The problem with liblouisutdml is an old one. It's due to
>>>>>>>>>>> PKG_CONFIG_PATH not being set or the pkg-config utility not being
>>>>>>>>>>> present. Others have built liblouisutdml on Mac OSX successfully.
>>>>>>>>>>> More
>>>>>>>>>>> documentation would certainly help.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering, though, why you need to build liblouis, since you
>>>>>>>>>>> have BrailleBlaster.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 09:31:47AM -0700, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well what I really want is to avoid this whole configure/make/make
>>>>>>>>>>>> install process and to just have an installer that puts the
>>>>>>>>>>>> various programs and support files into the right places. I could
>>>>>>>>>>>> even build such an installer for use if I could just get a set of
>>>>>>>>>>>> files to install. As a rule after some fiddling about I get
>>>>>>>>>>>> libelous built and installed but always run into trouble with
>>>>>>>>>>>> liblouisutdml for example:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I build libelous and run the make install. All should be set to go
>>>>>>>>>>>> on and build liblouisutdml right? Wrong I get the following which
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no idea at all how to fix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> checking for BASE_DEPENDENCIES... configure: error: Package
>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements (liblouis, libxml-2.0) were not met:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No package 'liblouis' found
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, you may set the environment variables
>>>>>>>>>>>> BASE_DEPENDENCIES_CFLAGS
>>>>>>>>>>>> and BASE_DEPENDENCIES_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
>>>>>>>>>>>> See the pkg-config man page for more details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg Kearney, General Manager
>>>>>>>>>>>> 605 Robson Street, Suite 850
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
>>>>>>>>>>>> CANADA
>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: info@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Address
>>>>>>>>>>>> 21908 Almaden Av.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cupertino, CA 95014
>>>>>>>>>>>> UNITED STATES
>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2014, at 9:20 AM, David Sweetman
>>>>>>>>>>>> <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For these issues, an Xcode project really wouldn’t solve any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems, it could only possibly complicate things. The current
>>>>>>>>>>>>> checkout builds fine for me on OS X (a091dc), so perhaps what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really needed is improved documentation on how to build. I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation was on Bert’s roadmap so that may be coming soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Greg Kearney <gkearney@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have cloned the the github version of libelous and did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configure. Upon running make it get the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gkearney:Liblouis gkearney$ make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Making all in gnulib
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /bin/sh: /Volumes/Untitled: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what is going on here? We really really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really need a better way to do this for people who just need the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> binaries for table development. A simple installer, an Xcode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project that builds every time something other than what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going on now. I don’t believe I have ever downloaded a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version without running into problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commonwealth Braille & Talking Book Cooperative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg Kearney, General Manager
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 605 Robson Street, Suite 850
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vancouver BC V6B 5J3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CANADA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: info@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Address
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21908 Almaden Av.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cupertino, CA 95014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UNITED STATES
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: gkearney@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>> Abilitiessoft, Inc. http://www.abilitiessoft.com
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
>>>>> Abilitiessoft, Inc.
>>>>> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
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>>
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