Re: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

  • From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:41:28 -0500

Yes. You'll be asked at a separate screen which synthesizer you want to be the default.


You can also set up Dectalk Express, or any other synthesizer, without going through the JAWS installation process. Look at the JAWS synthesizer and braille manager in the menu presented when you press insert-j. My guess is that the procedure exists there. I haven't done it in so long that I don't remember the specifics.
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From: "Jeffrey Schwartz" <sidney.schwartz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:33 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

Adrian, Thanks a lot for your help. I'm scheduled to get a new pc at work this week or next and I'll get one out and hook it up. I'm assuming that I'll still have the option of selecting eloquence, Yes? Regards, Jeff

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:15 PM
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Subject: Re: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

JAWS is still set up to configure Dectalk Express for you. When installing JAWS, you choose custom install. When selecting synthesizers, you press d down to Dectalk Express. Then JAWS presents you with the comport and other settings that are standard for Dectalk Express. You accept them and go on to

the next page.
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From: "Jeffrey Schwartz" <sidney.schwartz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

If I understand you, those are the ones I have You could buy an internal card for $950 or one of these for $1100. They are a bit larger than a paper back book. They came with a leather case . They connected to the pc by way of a cable that had a serial port connector for the computer and what looked like a telephone plug for the unit. I'm getting kind of nostalgic here. There were much cheaper ones on the market, but these sounded the best. How would I configure it? The old Jaws install asked you which com port it was on, if I remember correctly. Who knows? It might sound better than eloquence. Thanks, Jeff

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

Jeffrey, JAWS supports the DECtalk Express, and so if these are the type of DECtalk external synthesizers you have, they will work. If you have external DECtalk synthesizers older than the DECtalk Express, they may work if the command strings are the same as those for the Express.

Gary King w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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From: "Jeffrey Schwartz" <sidney.schwartz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:05 AM
Subject: RE: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

Hey Bruce, I have three, count them, external Dec talk synthesizers. They all worked just fine when I put them away. Just for the sake of experimentation, do you think that I could get jaws to speak thru one of them? When you consider it, the cost of using jaws has really come down. Those units cost$1100 each when that was some serious money. It's never been cheap to be blind.

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews on Unspecified Input Device
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

Perfect Paul was a part of the DecTalk family of voices, so as DecTalk went, so Perfect Paul went. Can't say that I missed him, but again, that is simply a testimony to the fact that voice preference is very subjective.

Bruce

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On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:

What happened to Perfect Paul. Did he go the way of the Dec talk?

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dave-d0619
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

When you use synthesizers such as the RealSpeak synthesizers, for example, is that when you speed them up, the quality of the speech deteriorates considerably. Also, they use more computer resources than synthesizers such as Eloquence.

Personally, I find them irritating and annoyingly slow for everyday use, which is why I would only use them for functions such as "SayAll" with the appropriate JAWS command

When I first used Eloquence, I did not like it very much. But, like many other people, I have got used to it.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

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From: "Bruce Toews on Unspecified Input Device" <bruce@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

The voices on the Stream are vastly scaled-down versions of the RealSpeak voices. The ones included with JAWS sound considerably better. They are not, as I have said several times now, meant to replace Eloquence.

bruce

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On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:

What is the advantage of this alternative to eloquence and the voices. I think that two of them are the same as the ones available on the Victor Stream Reader. It's the only thing that I don't like about it. Tom and Samantha sound like they are choking.

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Levine
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:13 AM
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Subject: Re: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

Hi, You do not need to save the FT download , just run it and you will be prompted to hit the install button and the module will go to the right place within the FS Folder. The FS Daisy Basic Training is very helpful with this

topic. Roger
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From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices

First off, let me say that I've been looking at every book and topic under Jaws Help, and have also been to the FS page with the selection of new RealSpeak voices. Even so, I still need to ask these questions. Thanks.

I'm using Jaws 10. I'd like to install one or more voices from the RealSpeak Solo Direct page at the FS site, but I don't understand what I'm supposed to do.

When I click on the FTP link for a voice, I get a common download dialogue. Fine. First of all, do I want to run or save? if it's Run, what happens? And if it's Save I want, then in which folder of my hard drive should I place it
?

And then, how do I actually install it and get it working?

I used to use Jaws 9, and I installed the old RealSpeak voices from the Jaws 9 CD, and they all appeared in my Say All item on the Configuration Manager Settings menu, and I knew how to get a voice working as the default Say All voice or, if I preferred, to set it up so that if I pressed Alt key Insert down arrow instead of the regular Say All command, the voice would kick in. So I have that experience. But I can't figure out how to install one or more of the new voices. this.

I hope my question is clear. Thanks for any assistance.

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