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- From: <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:25:22 +0100
If the computer does not have a serial port you may wish to contact the
manufacturer to verify that it does actually have a serial controller. On
some laptops (and likely desktops as well) there is no serial port or
controller and in those cases serial to USB adapters have been known not to
work for some serial devices.
HTH,
Everett
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews on an Unspecified Input Device" <Bruce@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices
> It all depends on which incarnations of the DecTalk you have. If they're
> the old card-based units, unlikely, since no modern computer has slots
> to accomodate them. But if they're serial-based, and your computer still
> has either a serial port or USB to serial converter, you should have no
> problems.
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:05:38 -0500, "Jeffrey Schwartz"
> <sidney.schwartz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>> Hey Bruce,
>> I have three, count them, external Dec talk synthesizers. They all
>> worked
>> just fine when I put them away. Just for the sake of experimentation, do
>> you think that I could get jaws to speak thru one of them? When you
>> consider it, the cost of using jaws has really come down. Those units
>> cost$1100 each when that was some serious money. It's never been cheap
>> to
>> be blind.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Bruce Toews on Unspecified Input Device
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:16 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices
>>
>> Perfect Paul was a part of the DecTalk family of voices, so as DecTalk
>> went, so Perfect Paul went. Can't say that I missed him, but again, that
>> is simply a testimony to the fact that voice preference is very
>> subjective.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Toews
>> Proud JAWS User
>> Skype ID: o.canada
>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: bruce@xxxxxxxx
>> LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com
>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:
>>
>> > What happened to Perfect Paul. Did he go the way of the Dec talk?
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf
>> > Of dave-d0619
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:41 AM
>> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: Re: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices
>> >
>> > When you use synthesizers such as the RealSpeak synthesizers, for
>> > example,
>> > is that when you speed them up, the quality of the speech deteriorates
>> > considerably. Also, they use more computer resources than synthesizers
>> such
>> > as Eloquence.
>> >
>> > Personally, I find them irritating and annoyingly slow for everyday
>> > use,
>> > which is why I would only use them for functions such as "SayAll" with
>> > the
>> > appropriate JAWS command
>> >
>> > When I first used Eloquence, I did not like it very much. But, like
>> > many
>> > other people, I have got used to it.
>> >
>> > Sincerely:
>> >
>> > Dave Durber
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Bruce Toews on Unspecified Input Device" <bruce@xxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:26 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices
>> >
>> >
>> >> The voices on the Stream are vastly scaled-down versions of the
>> >> RealSpeak
>> >> voices. The ones included with JAWS sound considerably better. They
>> >> are
>> >> not, as I have said several times now, meant to replace Eloquence.
>> >>
>> >> bruce
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bruce Toews
>> >> Proud JAWS User
>> >> Skype ID: o.canada
>> >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: bruce@xxxxxxxx
>> >> LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com
>> >> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> >> http://www.ogts.net
>> >> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008, Jeffrey Schwartz wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> What is the advantage of this alternative to eloquence and the
>> >>> voices.
>> > I
>> >>> think that two of them are the same as the ones available on the
>> >>> Victor
>> >>> Stream Reader. It's the only thing that I don't like about it. Tom
>> >>> and
>> >>> Samantha sound like they are choking.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf
>> >>> Of Roger Levine
>> >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:13 AM
>> >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Subject: Re: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> You do not need to save the FT download , just run it and you will be
>> >>> prompted to hit the install button and the module will go to the
>> >>> right
>> > place
>> >>> within the FS Folder. The FS Daisy Basic Training is very helpful
>> >>> with
>> > this
>> >>>
>> >>> topic.
>> >>> Roger
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:18 PM
>> >>> Subject: Jaws 10 and RealSpeak Solo direct voices
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> First off, let me say that I've been looking at every book and topic
>> > under
>> >>>> Jaws Help, and have also been to the FS page with the selection of
>> >>>> new
>> >>>> RealSpeak voices. Even so, I still need to ask these questions.
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm using Jaws 10. I'd like to install one or more voices from the
>> >>>> RealSpeak
>> >>>> Solo Direct page at the FS site, but I don't understand what I'm
>> > supposed
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> do.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When I click on the FTP link for a voice, I get a common download
>> >>>> dialogue.
>> >>>> Fine. First of all, do I want to run or save? if it's Run, what
>> > happens?
>> >>>> And
>> >>>> if it's Save I want, then in which folder of my hard drive should I
>> > place
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And then, how do I actually install it and get it working?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I used to use Jaws 9, and I installed the old RealSpeak voices from
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> Jaws
>> >>>> 9 CD, and they all appeared in my Say All item on the Configuration
>> >>>> Manager
>> >>>> Settings menu, and I knew how to get a voice working as the default
>> >>>> Say
>> >>>> All
>> >>>> voice or, if I preferred, to set it up so that if I pressed Alt key
>> > Insert
>> >>>> down arrow instead of the regular Say All command, the voice would
>> >>>> kick
>> >>>> in.
>> >>>> So I have that experience. But I can't figure out how to install one
>> >>>> or
>> >>>> more
>> >>>> of the new voices. this.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I hope my question is clear. Thanks for any assistance.
>> >>>>
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