On 2009-05-10 at 23:35:11 [+0200], Ingo Weinhold <ingo_weinhold@xxxxxx> wrote: > On 2009-05-10 at 09:34:49 [+0200], PulkoMandy <pulkomandy@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > 2009/5/10 Donn Cave <donn@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > Quoth Matt <laceysnr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, > > >>> Isn't that a pretty strong argument for just using nano as the only > > >>> CLI editor and let "power" users install vim, if they prefer? It > > >>> costs only a > > >>> few clicks and everyone is happy. > > >> > > >> I guess you're right, and Jonas' point was well made too. I'd rather > > >> it was installed already (even if you have to set the env var > > >> manually) just so you've got it even if you don't have network > > >> access. > > > > > > Right. I think it's quite optimistic to imagine "everyone is happy" > > > as an outcome of omitting vim from the base install. > > > > Someone already mentioned Cream, I think this should really be > > considered. It makes vim behaves like any other editor, but still, > > "powerusers" can disable it and use a regular vim. This way we get only > > one editor but everyone can use it happily :) > > Unless I'm mistaken the shortcut key would be the wrong one. I.e. > Control-S for saving instead of Command-S. At least I wouldn't be happy > with this. In any case, I thought we already had the good compromise that another editor, perhaps nano, would be part of the regular distro, the one that comes with additional apps? Isn't that enough to make everyone happy? Best regards, -Stephan