On 2009-05-08 at 11:09:13 [+0200], Axel Dörfler <axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > "Stephan Assmus" <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote: > > > If you don't know vim, why do you start it in the first place? Just > > > because you heard it's an editor?? > > > Why would you want to use commands you don't know to use? The shell > > > commands can be pretty destructive, and so you better always know > > > what > > > you're doing. > > It has been said before that you end up in vi not on purpose. I don't > > know why > > we even discuss this still. > > Because one could go on forever with this. I'm not arguing that vim is > a stupid thing, I just don't see the mentality switch that Fredrik > wants to see; it's just the question of where to draw the line. > FWIW, I actually wasn't aware that there are apps that let you end up > in vim without you knowing it - adding "nano" additionally would not > solve this, though, so removing vim would be the better option for > those apps (and eventually making sure EDITOR is set by default). I suppose that's what people ask for. And although I primarily use vim as a CLI editor I tend to agree. CU, Ingo