2009/5/7 Axel Dörfler <axeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > I would argue people who use the shell always need to know what they > are doing. > If you are not only remotely connected to a system, you would use a > real editor, anyway. I disagree. Do we really want that kind of mentality, that you already have to know what you're doing before you start using the shell? Do we really want to use something that most users and some devs can't work with as a default editor? (Yes it's really powerful, but it's very unintuitive. Here is how I use it: Every time I get thrown into vi without me expecting it, like doing svn commit which uses the default editor I get really frustrated and annoyed. (In fact I want to throw the computer out the window). I usually use CTRL-Z and kill the process, because it's very unintuitive to even learn basic commands like help or quit.) Fredrik Holmqvist, TQH