Hi Phil, and Paul I'm in Sydney, Phil. Also, I wasn't angered or offended by the word "brainwashed" -- it was amusing. I'm not surprised that you and Marc consider me as brainwashed -- and vice versa. But isn't that what deception implies? One or other party is sincere and almost right. But a miss is a miss? The tragedy of deception is that the victim sincerely believes that he is correct -- but isn't? It's understandable that Paul wonders at the conflict amongst the different groups who share the same Bible. I'd respond to Paul but I think he's having a dig at us and probably isn't interested in an answer. Am I right Paul? John On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > On second thoughts, Paul, though I am reluctant to print during my happy > hour, and this has been a four hour binge, I was nevertheless inspired to > make a comment immediately. > > Your question is exactly the same in principle, as that thrown at Jesus on > the Cross.. "If you are God, then deliver yourself from the cross and we > will believe you..." > > Now how far do you think christianity upon which the calandar you use today > was based , would have lasted if He had done that, and came down off the > cross? > > He did better... He rose from the dead as promised, on Sunday, your first > day of the week, before many and enough witnesses.. That is what started > it. > > Philip. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx> > *To:* Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2008 6:13 PM > *Subject:* [geocentrism] Re: Zeitgeist : Jesus-Christ assumed to be a > false God > > Greetings all > I usually pass over the theology stuff but this one seems tailor made for > me. > We are told God not only exists but is Omniscient, Omnipotent > and Omnipresent. You'd think that He would be capable of protecting Himself > from the efforts of His detractors but it seems that this is not so since > the only way these detractors come to grief is if His followers visit harm > upon them. Oddly, many of these detractors claim also to be His > followers. One would think this OOO God would have been able to communicate > His needs unambiguously to His creatures so that they would know, and could > demonstrate unequivocally, who was a detractor and who a follower. > > Paul D > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > >