[geocentrism] Re: Zeitgeist : Jesus-Christ assumed to be a false God
- From: "John Roodt" <johnroodt@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:37:32 +1100
"brainwashed response"? :-)
How would I know if I was brainwashed? How would you recognise if you
yourself were brainwashed?
I suspect that Neville would regard both of us -- and perhaps all believers
-- as brainwashed. How would you prove him wrong?
What is the test? Is there safety in numbers? If a belief stands the test of
time does it become truth?
This is not a good situation...
John
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:14 PM, philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> John, g'day.. I new Marc would stir the pot, but I did not expect the
> brainwashed response we got from you. Thats fine.. I respect your right to
> speak your mind..
>
> I would like to correct some of the false concepts you have been given from
> somewhere. Its not unusual, after all.. The Jews thoroughly believe Jesus
> was born of a harlot, who is rotting in excrement in a special Hell.
>
> But I will not answer any detail without your agreement... Mormons and
> Jw's knock on doors intending to enforce their beliefs .. Catholics are
> forbidden to do that. We believe that all grace to see the truth comes from
> God into the soul to seek it out.
>
> You might have that grace, or you might not, believing you already have the
> truth.
>
> Ordinary Catholics like myself have been given no mandate or ordination to
> evangelise.. That was given to the Apostles and their successors. I can
> only impart when asked, what they have given to me. And even that is but
> imperfectly.
>
> Scripture once it got under the modern press has done nothing but divide,
> working against the principle Jesus wanted of one flock one shepherd.
>
> One of the sheep,
>
> Philip.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John Roodt <johnroodt@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2008 1:03 PM
> *Subject:* [geocentrism] Re: Zeitgeist : Jesus-Christ assumed to be a
> false God
>
> Oh dear...
>
> By now I realise that it's impossible to reason with you Catholics. You
> should know that unless God works...those that labour, labour in vain. You
> take the Glory from God by claiming to have given us the Scriptures.
>
> In the end, your words will be turned against you.
>
> -- negation of the Divinity of Jesus-Christ
>
> You have just done that by equating the truth of "the Virgin Mary in
> association with false goddess" to that of Christ's Divinity. Christ's
> Divinity is recorded in Scripture whereas "the teachings of the [Catholic]
> Church concerning the Virgin Mary" are just that...the teachings of Rome.
> They are not Scripture.
>
> -- "the writings of the New Testament which come from the [Catholic]
> Church"
> We have a pretty good idea of who wrote the Bible -- and there isn't a
> Catholic amongst them. If you are referring to the Catholic inclusion of the
> Apocrypha, then fine, you're welcome to slap yourself on the back but you
> won't get our endorsement.
>
> We seem, more so every day, to be entering into an "interesting period" --
> if not the final act in the times of the gentiles. Your misplaced zeal will
> sadly pit you against God. The difference is in how you and I will respond
> to each other. Rome has murdered those who have clung to the pure Word of
> God. But no amount of usurping, threats and intimidation from the church of
> ROME is going to sway the Elect of God. All you can look forward to is to
> add even more blood to your hands -- the blood of the Saints.
>
> When Jesus said: "Those who are not against us, are for us", I always
> assumed He meant Catholics -- but I no longer believe that.
>
> The Faith was delivered to us "once and for all". We see now the Wisdom of
> God in this, because He has protected us from usurpers throughout the past
> 2,000 years.
>
> The Word of God belongs to God --
> The teaching of Rome belongs to Rome --
>
> Make a choice.
> John
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:29 PM, <marc-veilleux@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> The negation of the Divinity of Jesus-Christ by association with false
>> gods of antiquity is a consequence and a development of the same assumption
>> that first put the Virgin Mary in association with false
>> goddess. Obviously, protestants have a lot to do with these false
>> assumptions as they are also responsible for the false and
>> anti-biblical religious liberty included in the U.S. Constitution as is
>> now in most Constitutions all over the world since the Revolution (started
>> by protestants in the U.S.).
>>
>> If you refuse the teachings of the Church concerning the Virgin Mary or
>> any other matter, you should think twice about believing the writings of
>> the New Testament which come from the Church. The writings of the New
>> Testament have been canonized by the Church along with the writings of the
>> Old Testament: they are the only canonized writings. And it is insanity to
>> assume that the Catholic Church is not the Church or is only a part of the
>> Church !
>>
>>
>> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm
>>
>> Christus Imperat,
>> Marc Veilleux
>>
>
>
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