I found this book very helpful indeed but obviously use your discernment when reading as the Holy Spirit leads us and guides us into all truth. http://philologos.org/__eb-tws/ What I don't understand is that the author still has the view point of a heliocentric creation??? The witness of the stars by E.W.Bullinger isbn 0825422450 paperback. "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dan wrote "So many people worship the book instead of the person who inspired it. Like the creation instead of the creator." Yes, nicely tied in. I will check those links out when I get a chance. I am particularly interested in the alleged astrology issue, because I have had many a discussion (well, argument actually) with Dr. Gerardus Bouw on this matter. Can you supply any further details? Neville. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com