[geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
- From: "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:49:58 -0500
Neville,
That's it Neville. Don't deal with the actual issue. You don't know
what Catholics actually believe and teach. So, rather than admit it,
you respond by treating this as an issue of opinions.
You avoided my earlier question by just responding "Good grief". If you
get pinned down, just dodge, right?
How about this one. Assume I belonged to a Math organization which
taught 2+2=4. Assume also you are highly critical of me and my
organization for teaching that 2+2=6. I explain to you that you've read
some bad stuff about my organization, since we don't teach 2+2=6, so I
suggest you go to the source and see what we actually teach. An honest
person actually interested in the real truth would do this. A dishonest
person would just keep right on being critical or responding with
answers that avoid the matter. I've reached a decision about you
Neville. You aren't interested in the real truth. This is obvious to
any thinking person.
If you ever change, try reading Denzinger, The Sources of Catholic
Dogma. You can find it easily if you choose. This would at least be a
start in understanding what the Catholic Church actually teaches.
Regards,
Nick.
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From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 6:23 AM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
Dear Nick,
Many thanks for your kind words, but since you are fallible your
opinions are, by your own admission, worthless.
Neville.
"Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neville,
It's interesting that you really have no idea what the Catholic
Church actually is or what it actually teaches.
Your approach IS "convenient" for you Neville. The reason is
because you can do what you want and believe what you want. You can
reject what you want and accept what you want. You're not really
interested in the truth, you're interested in what you want. So what if
your approach means you have to give up bacon. That's convenient too,
since you can use it to pretend you are being a martyr and to claim you
are looking for truth.
I'm not easily fooled Neville. I've read enough of you to see
through your facade.
Thank you for reciting the common non-Catholic claims that
Catholics don't need to think, as well as your other caricatures of
Catholics. It just further confirms to me that you haven't actually
studied the Catholic faith from credible sources, which confirms further
that you are clueless and just like to spout off about what you don't
know.
Regards,
Nick.
From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:46 PM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus
"Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neville,
That's really convenient isn't it. Just treat the portions of
Scripture you don't agree with as forgeries. Very handy. Especially
for a fallible guy.
It is actually not in the least bit "convenient." It is very
inconvenient. I mean, I could easily be like you and say that the Bible
has been put together by men with no alternative agenda, the Jews have
had their day but it's "our" turn now, the Roman Catholic Church is all
that I have to put my faith in, the old law no longer applies so I can
eat my bacon sandwiches as I used to, I can do anything I like as long
as I tell the priest and recite three hail Marys (always assuming that
the priest isn't busy doing other things), and above all, I do not need
to think for myself, as you seemingly do not, because everything has
been done for me. I just attend the church building every week and put
money in the box. Of course, the more money I put into the coffers of
the Church of Rome, the more "saved" I'll be - even after death.
No. My rejection of most of the "New Testament" is most
certainly not "convenient."
Neville.
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