Neville, That's it Neville. Don't deal with the actual issue. You don't know what Catholics actually believe and teach. So, rather than admit it, you respond by treating this as an issue of opinions. You avoided my earlier question by just responding "Good grief". If you get pinned down, just dodge, right? How about this one. Assume I belonged to a Math organization which taught 2+2=4. Assume also you are highly critical of me and my organization for teaching that 2+2=6. I explain to you that you've read some bad stuff about my organization, since we don't teach 2+2=6, so I suggest you go to the source and see what we actually teach. An honest person actually interested in the real truth would do this. A dishonest person would just keep right on being critical or responding with answers that avoid the matter. I've reached a decision about you Neville. You aren't interested in the real truth. This is obvious to any thinking person. If you ever change, try reading Denzinger, The Sources of Catholic Dogma. You can find it easily if you choose. This would at least be a start in understanding what the Catholic Church actually teaches. Regards, Nick. _____ From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 6:23 AM To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus Dear Nick, Many thanks for your kind words, but since you are fallible your opinions are, by your own admission, worthless. Neville. "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Neville, It's interesting that you really have no idea what the Catholic Church actually is or what it actually teaches. Your approach IS "convenient" for you Neville. The reason is because you can do what you want and believe what you want. You can reject what you want and accept what you want. You're not really interested in the truth, you're interested in what you want. So what if your approach means you have to give up bacon. That's convenient too, since you can use it to pretend you are being a martyr and to claim you are looking for truth. I'm not easily fooled Neville. I've read enough of you to see through your facade. Thank you for reciting the common non-Catholic claims that Catholics don't need to think, as well as your other caricatures of Catholics. It just further confirms to me that you haven't actually studied the Catholic faith from credible sources, which confirms further that you are clueless and just like to spout off about what you don't know. Regards, Nick. From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:46 PM To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Saul of Tarsus "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Neville, That's really convenient isn't it. Just treat the portions of Scripture you don't agree with as forgeries. Very handy. Especially for a fallible guy. It is actually not in the least bit "convenient." It is very inconvenient. I mean, I could easily be like you and say that the Bible has been put together by men with no alternative agenda, the Jews have had their day but it's "our" turn now, the Roman Catholic Church is all that I have to put my faith in, the old law no longer applies so I can eat my bacon sandwiches as I used to, I can do anything I like as long as I tell the priest and recite three hail Marys (always assuming that the priest isn't busy doing other things), and above all, I do not need to think for myself, as you seemingly do not, because everything has been done for me. I just attend the church building every week and put money in the box. Of course, the more money I put into the coffers of the Church of Rome, the more "saved" I'll be - even after death. No. My rejection of most of the "New Testament" is most certainly not "convenient." Neville.
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