Dan, The discussions of these past couple of weeks have borne the fruit of your most welcome posting. (John 17:20 KJV) Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; (John 17:21 KJV) That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. Hallelujah !! Neville. Dan <danchap9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Neville, They most definitely do not fit in with the teachings of the Messiah. The "god" of secular denominational Christan "religion" is Satan.The whole religious system whatever it may call itself whether Islam or Christian or Muslim etc is centered around him and him alone.Satan that is.Infiltrators will disguise themselves as the truth but are not.Just like the Jesuit priests.I was fast asleep for over 20 years of my life to this and was totally sold out to the system and if anyone threatened my position by questioning my views and authority or the authority of "leadership" I would react just like Nick defending a worthless lifeless false religion. I thank Yah that He and only He has opened my eyes and awakened me from sleep and lifted the veil of my understanding. This does not make me and others like me greater than anyo ne else but the least of you all. Blessings. Dan. "Dr. Neville Jones" <ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear All, Some of you on this forum will actually stop and consider the evidence against Saul of Tarsus and make up your own mind about who he is: an apostle, as he himself claims, or the devil, as I for one now claim. As intelligent men, you are obliged to reason this out for yourselves, rather than rely upon the teachings of any established church. I would like you, therefore, to ponder the following quotations from Saul himself: (1 Cor 4:15 KJV) For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. (1 Cor 4:16 KJV) Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. Are these comments in harmony with the teaching of the Messiah or are they not? You decide. Neville. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos