[duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:03:41 -0500

Lissa,

In fact, "which lines would you like to have blank" is just what we'll
"ask".

That is, you can try out the code without supplying these extra parameters.
If you don't like what you get, then add the extra parameters to tell us
which lines to skip.

Segments is a better term for what Mike and I have to communicate to get the
default case to work well.  At this level, it's a math problem.  You
shouldn't have to worry about it.

- Peter 

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Melissa Hirshson
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:01 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

I'm not clear as to why #4 needs to be so complicated; trying to figure out
"segments" is like trying to figure out who owes what on a large restaurant
bill. Why can't you just ask: "4. Which lines would you like to have
blank?"? To answer #4, I personally would like lines 8 and 17 to be blank.
What that means concerning segments, I don't know.

All just my opinion of course. :) Thanks.

Lissa

Peter Sullivan wrote:
> Lissa,
> 
> I can think of four issues:
> 1. How many folds will there be?
> 2. How many lines should be skipped for each fold?
> 3. What character(s), if any, should be put on these lines?
> 4. How should the resulting "segments" of text lines be arranged, if 
> they will not all be the same size.
> 
> Here's what the code will do by default:
> 1. Two folds.
> 2. One skipped line per fold.
> 3. Nothing on the fold lines.
> 4. I forget whether the big sections will be placed at the top or the 
> bottom
> -- it's however you (Lissa) prefer it, in any case.
> 
> Note, however, that all of these behaviors are configurable.
> 
> We were seeking a consensus only to determine what to do about 
> extending the code.  In most respects (except point #4, where DBT 10.5 
> appears to have a bug), we're leaving things as they were in DBT 10.5, 
> regardless of what consensus builds.
> 
> More important than our mission to find some consensus about how 
> things should work by default, we were seeking consensus about what 
> things might be varied.  I do think that we've found this.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Hirshson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:24 PM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code
> 
> Based on what I've read in these postings, it seems that there is 
> _not_ a consensus on how fold lines should be used? The usage of dot 
> 2-5s is one example.
> 
> Lissa
> 
> Don Breda wrote:
> 
>>  Yes George, I agree.
>>
>>Don
>>--Original Message Text---
>>*From:* George Bell
>>*Date:* Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:59:21 +0100
>>
>>Don, even with the expanded parameters, the raw code's defaults retain 
>>the simplicity.
>>
>>I tend to compare it with the likes of the [pg] code, where it can be 
>>optionally extended to cover specific page number and a prefix.
>>
>>George.
>>* From: * duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
>>*Sent:* 29 March 2006 14:47
>>*To:* duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>*Subject:* [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code
>>
>>
>>
>>Mike, although I love the configurability of the folds code as you put 
>>forth, I think it has made a very simple concept and code very 
>>complicated. If we find that the default behavior is what most users 
>>want then I guess it is not a problem but it sure has gotten 
>>complicated and the documentation for this code as you propose must be 
>>made much clearer and have more examples in its final form.
>>
>>Don
>>
>>On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:06:47 -0500, Mike Gorse wrote:
>>
>> >I propose making the following changes to the operation of the
>>[folds]
>>code:
>> >
>> >- The code will, by default, automatically try to place folds evenly
>>
>>>throughout a page. For a 25-line document, fold lines will be placed
>>
>>on  >lines 8 and 17.
>> >
>> >
>> >- If numeric parameters are specified beyond the existing two, then
>>they  >will specify the lines on which the folds should occur. If the 
>>second  >parameter is 2, indicating that there should be two fold 
>>lines for each  >fold, then optional following parameters will specify 
>>the first line of each  >fold. If [folds2:1:9:18] is inserted, then 
>>folds will be inserted on lines
>> >9 and 18.
>> >
>> >-Mike
>> >
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