[duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

  • From: "Mike Gorse" <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:40:30 -0500

Hi Rebecca,

There are problems with the [folds] code that were not fixed in beta 3, so it would be best to wait for beta 4 before trying to get it to work.

Beta 4 will allow line numbers to be specified after the original two parameters specifying the number and size of the folds. The algorithm to determine the location of the fold lines by default has also been modified for beta 4.

-Mike

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Sherwood" <rsherwood@xxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code



For the folds code, I can't seem to specify the lines where I want the folds, and the segments are always equal-sized, leaving blank lines at the bottom of a page.
What is the exact usage for the folds code? The help file for folding only specifies two parameters, and the link to "Tell me more" next to foldsN in the DBT CODES QUICK REFERENCE doesn't work.


Thanks,
Rebecca


Lissa,

I can think of four issues:
1. How many folds will there be?
2. How many lines should be skipped for each fold?
3. What character(s), if any, should be put on these lines?
4. How should the resulting "segments" of text lines be arranged, if they will not all be the same size.


Here's what the code will do by default:
1. Two folds.
2. One skipped line per fold.
3. Nothing on the fold lines.
4. I forget whether the big sections will be placed at the top or the bottom
-- it's however you (Lissa) prefer it, in any case.


Note, however, that all of these behaviors are configurable.

We were seeking a consensus only to determine what to do about extending the code. In most respects (except point #4, where DBT 10.5 appears to have a bug), we're leaving things as they were in DBT 10.5, regardless of what consensus builds.

More important than our mission to find some consensus about how things should work by default, we were seeking consensus about what things might be varied. I do think that we've found this.

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Hirshson
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:24 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code


Based on what I've read in these postings, it seems that there is _not_ a consensus on how fold lines should be used? The usage of dot 2-5s is one example.

Lissa

Don Breda wrote:


Yes George, I agree.

Don
--Original Message Text---
*From:* George Bell
*Date:* Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:59:21 +0100

Don, even with the expanded parameters, the raw code's defaults retain the simplicity.

I tend to compare it with the likes of the [pg] code, where it can be optionally extended to cover specific page number and a prefix.

George.
* From: * duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
*Sent:* 29 March 2006 14:47
*To:* duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code




Mike, although I love the configurability of the folds code as you put forth, I think it has made a very simple concept and code very complicated. If we find that the default behavior is what most users want then I guess it is not a problem but it sure has gotten complicated and the documentation for this code as you propose must be made much clearer and have more examples in its final form.

Don

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:06:47 -0500, Mike Gorse wrote:


I propose making the following changes to the operation of the


[folds]
code:

- The code will, by default, automatically try to place folds evenly


throughout a page. For a 25-line document, fold lines will be placed


on  >lines 8 and 17.


- If numeric parameters are specified beyond the existing two, then


they >will specify the lines on which the folds should occur. If the second >parameter is 2, indicating that there should be two fold lines for each >fold, then optional following parameters will specify the first line of each >fold. If [folds2:1:9:18] is inserted, then folds will be inserted on lines

9 and 18.

-Mike

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