[duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

  • From: Rebecca Sherwood <rsherwood@xxxxxxx>
  • To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:40:37 -0500

It seems that whether you have the small section on the top or bottom is largely determined by whether you fold the top or bottom in first. When I pull a letter out of an envelope, typically the bottom of the letter was folded in first, and the top second; also, the outer flap of the letter is usually shorter than the height of the folded letter. So, assuming the bottom is folded first, I would think it best to have the short section at the top of the letter (for aesthetic purposes).

On a side note, I embossed a letter with a 9-line section in the middle and two 7-line sections on the top and bottom. When folded this way, neither the top nor the bottom interfere with each other regardless of whether you fold top or bottom first, but the letter just fits into a standard #10 envelope, and would probably be even harder to stuff in if it was more than one braille page.

My preference:
7
skip (line 8)
8
skip (line 17)
8

Best,
Rebecca


Michael Surato wrote:

The guiding principal I would use would be to have the "remainder" from
the algorithm be at the top of the paper. Assuming that the equation
stays the same, I would count lines starting from the bottom of the
page. This would place the fold at line 17 (25-8) & 9 (17-8).

Again this is my opinion.
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-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Hirshson
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:18 AM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code


Hi Peter,

I'm not sure what you mean. When I tried to fold the paper, it was obvious that line 17, not 16, was the correct place to put the folding line. We would not be able to use the feature if it were only set to line 16.

Lissa

Peter Sullivan wrote:


Lissa,

The question remains whether there is any guiding principle


to this.

Or is it "just because"?

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melissa Hirshson
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:55 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] [folds] code


Hi Mike,

When we fold a sheet of braille on 8-1/2 by 11 paper into


thirds, the

lines affected are 8 and 17.

Lissa

Mike Gorse wrote:



Hi Lissa, Christian, and anyone else interested:

Currently, where there is not a second parameter passed to


a [folds]

code, folds are inserted at fixed intervals of N lines, where N = (num_lines + 1) / num_folds. For instance, on a 25-line page, (25 +
1) / 3 (rounded down) = 8, so every 8th line is a fold.


This causes

folds on lines 8 and 16 of a 25-line page, so there are two


groups of


7 lines and one group of 9 lines. It looks as though I need


to change

the algorithm, but I need to know how people want it to work in general before I change anything.

There will not always be an equal number of lines available between folds. On a 25-line page, for instance, the best that can be done would be to have one group of 7 lines and two groups of 8


lines. In

these situations, should the first group always have the


fewest lines?


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
-Mike

----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Hirshson"


<lissa@xxxxxxx>


To: <mike@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: DBT Beta: Two things





Hi all,

First of all, I absolutely love the potential of the $fold


command!

We do lots and lots of letters here that need to be


folded, and this

will help us a lot. (Is this new to 10;6? I didn't beta test 10;5 very
thoroughly.) However, the dimensions are wrong, the second fold should be on line 17, not 16. (I just tested it.) The


first fold is

correct on line 8.

Secondly, I see that your definition of narrow paper


(i.e., 8-1/2 by


11 inch) is 32 cells. Here we do 30 cells, not 32,


because, and I've

concurred with a blind colleague, it is uncomfortable to


read braille

when your finger is hitting the edge of the paper all the time. It also doesn't allow for an adequate binding margin for our


equipment,

either. Can we change the definition of narrow paper, or


define our

own, so that we don't need to be typing in 30 all the time? Thanks!

Lissa
NBP



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