[duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

  • From: "Peter Sullivan" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:00:47 -0500

Jack,

The whole point of the discussion has indeed been to make the code
user-configurable, while keeping it simple to use for the most common cases
*and* backward compatible with DBT 10.5.

Having a letter template is what I've had in mind to propose to those who
would otherwise have to use a severely doctored form of the [folds] code in
each letter document individually.  It might even be more generally useful.
But I don't think that it's the sort of thing we should supply.  For
starters, we'd get requests to supply one such template (at least) for every
language we support.  Moreover, user preferences for [folds] code behavior
vary, as we've seen.  So I think it best to leave the creation of such
template up to the end user.

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jack Maartman
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:11 PM
To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code

I am finding this whole argumentation a bit bewildering. Doesn't a folds
code indicate either two skipped line, or a line of dots across the width of
the paper.  Shouldn't this be user configurable, based on preference. Please
bare with me, as no doubt this has already been stated.  What about a
"letter template" where the code could be user defined, <smile>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:13 AM
Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code


> Yes, Susan, but what about those of us in Europe who use 12
> inch deep paper which can hold up to 29 Lines?
>
> Or even David on this list who uses 13 inch deep paper.
>
> I know it's a difficult concept, but there is life outside
> of North America.  (smile)
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan
> Sent: 28 March 2006 18:25
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code
>
> FWIW, MegaDots uses a line of dots 2-5 across braille lines
> 9 and 18 and with 8-1/2" width paper fits a business
> envelope perfectly.
>
> Susan
>
>
> Peter Sullivan wrote on 3/28/2006, 10:45 AM:
>
> Michael,
>
> We are looking to avoid alogrithms that produce three
> different sizes of section. We're aiming instead for an
> alogrithm that, regardless of the number of folds, will
> produce sections of at most two different sizes.
>
> There seems to be some disagreement about how to distribute
> the larger and smaller sections, when the sections aren't
> all of the same size.
>
> Mike is looking for a way to make this something that the
> end user can set. So far, we have two preferences:
>
> 1. Put the larger section(s) first -- the smaller section(s)
> following.
> 2. Put the smaller section(s) first -- the larger section(s)
> following.
>
> So far, nobody has requested the larger or smaller
> section(s) be placed in the middle. This is good -- the
> fewer variations there are in preference, the more easily we
> can understand and adapt to them.
>
> However, let me point out a wrinkle that nobody else has
> pointed out so far.
>
> If you have an even number of sections greater than two --
> perhaps because you've requested three fold lines (thus four
> sections) -- I posit that you would want, if possible, to
> have the fold lines arranged symmetrically on the page. This
> would make it possible to fold once down the middle, and
> once again at the now-coincident remaining fold lines.
>
> We wouldn't get this by putting the larger fold section(s)
> consistently at the top or at the bottom. A recursive
> algorithm is necessary to manage such a case well.
>
> All of which is to beg your patience -- and that of others
> -- as we try to tease out a specification on this one. We've
> put our thinking caps on too.
>
> - Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
> Surato
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:15 AM
> To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [duxhelp] Re: [folds] code
>
> Correct, I would want the largest section to be at the top
> of the page.
> Ideally, I would want the smallest section to be at the
> bottom of the page. This would produce a page that has the
> first line or so outside of the folded section, and still
> have a neat fold.
>
> If the algorithm produces 3 different size sections, I would
> want the largest at the top, and the smallest at the bottom.
> If there are 2 equal size sections, and 1 larger section, I
> would want the larger section at the top. If there are 2
> equal size sections, and 1 smaller section, I would want the
> smaller section at the bottom.
>
>
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