[THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
- From: "Schneider, Chad M" <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:25:02 -0600
Single server for an application, single point of failure, no load
balancing?
What would happen if that hardware failed?
Sounds like a design flaw.
:)
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Philip Walley
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 1:34 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
there are several apps that only have one server.
Joe Shonk wrote:
> Why would you need a downtime? We do this now in several 24x7
> environments.
>
> Joe
>
>
> On 3/24/06, *Philip Walley* <mythinlist@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:mythinlist@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> I would say that is unacceptable by most standards. my environment for
> example runs production servers that require 24x7 access. downtime to
> rebuild is not acceptable.
>
> Joe Shonk wrote:
> > Well, Citrix and TS are generally considered disposable servers. A
> > rebuild of the Citrix servers (atleast for the companies I work
> with)
> > is quite simple. It's actually easier for us to add/replace a
> > component in our scripts and redeploy than it is to "Upgrade" and
> > clean up the aftermath.
> >
> > I know it seems rediculous to want to have a "clean" install of
> the OS
> > and ServicePack vs just installing the ServicePack later
> on, but it's
> > a problem that Microsoft created for themselves. Simply look at
> > Microsoft's history of Service Packs w/ Terminal Server and you'll
> > understand why. W2K SP2, SP3 and SP4 all have had major issues and
> > there are reports of W2K3 SP1 having some issues... I switched
> to the
> > "clean" install concept with W2K Sp3 and have great success with it.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > On 3/24/06, *Evan Mann* < emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >
> > Or call Citrix support for assistance? For the amount of
> money we
> > pay for Citrix, I'd be really ticked off if the only
> solution was
> > to re-install. Does anyone else find that unacceptable?
> >
> > I certainly can appreciate the desire to have "clean"
> installs of
> > products, but to be required to re-install after every service
> > pack upgrade to an OS is completely ridiculous, for ANY product.
> >
> >
>
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> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On
> > Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 11:12 AM
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> >
> >
> > Did anyone simply try doing a repair of Citrix after SP1 was
> > installed? Just curious.
> >
> >
> > Jeff Pitsch
> > Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> >
> > Forums not enough?
> > Get support from the experts at your business
> > http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
> <http://jeffpitschconsulting.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/24/06, *Schneider, Chad M* < CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >
> > Uninstall Citrix, install SP1, reinstall Citrix?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > <mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On Behalf Of *Justin Martin
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 9:43 AM
> >
> >
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> >
> >
> >
> > What are you supposed to do if Citrix PS 4 is already
> > installed and you must install 2003 SP 1??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On Behalf Of *Schneider,
> > Chad M
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 10:26 AM
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> >
> >
> >
> > Upgrade to SP1, post Citrix install, you are asking for
> problems.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > *On Behalf Of *IT Support
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 8:52 AM
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> >
> >
> >
> > How about upgrading to SP1 with Citrix installed?
> >
> >
> >
> > I've just put SP1 on one of my servers with a view to
> > upgrading the entire farm, but am having problems with
> shadow
> > keys
> >
> >
> >
> > Ie. http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=238
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there anything else I should be aware of?
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't really fancy rebuilding citrix if I can get away
> with it!
> >
> >
> >
> > N
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Schneider, Chad M
> > *Sent:* 24 March 2006 14:19
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> >
> >
> >
> > Be sure the server is 2003 SP1 BEFORE you install Citrix.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Evan Mann
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 8:08 AM
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> >
> >
> >
> > It's hasn't caused a single problem for me. My 4 PS 4.0
> > servers were loaded fresh onto 2003 SP1 boxes. I've run
> about
> > a dozen pre PS4 R01 updates to fix some printing issues,
> and
> > others just for "good measure". Haven't gotten a chance to
> > install R01 + post R01 fixes yet.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > *On Behalf Of *Minero, Hector B CIV K55
> > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 9:03 AM
> > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > *Subject:* [THIN] Windows 2003 SP1
> >
> > Does Windows 2003 SP1 still cause problems in PS 4.0?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm getting ready to rebuild some servers and I'm
> wondering if
> > I should install Win2k3 SP1.
> >
> >
> >
> > I tried searching thethin.net <http://thethin.net>
> <http://thethin.net/>list
> > archives, but that was useless.
> >
> > Is there a better place to search for list archives?
> >
> >
> >
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