[THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
- From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:22:18 -0700
There are ways around that, you can build another server in parallel, move
users, take old server and do the same for the next one...
Even saying that, having one server and stating downtime is unacceptible is
a schizophrenic response.
Joe
On 3/24/06, Philip Walley <mythinlist@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> there are several apps that only have one server.
>
> Joe Shonk wrote:
> > Why would you need a downtime? We do this now in several 24x7
> > environments.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > On 3/24/06, *Philip Walley* <mythinlist@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:mythinlist@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > I would say that is unacceptable by most standards. my environment
> for
> > example runs production servers that require 24x7 access. downtime
> to
> > rebuild is not acceptable.
> >
> > Joe Shonk wrote:
> > > Well, Citrix and TS are generally considered disposable
> servers. A
> > > rebuild of the Citrix servers (atleast for the companies I work
> > with)
> > > is quite simple. It's actually easier for us to add/replace a
> > > component in our scripts and redeploy than it is to "Upgrade" and
> > > clean up the aftermath.
> > >
> > > I know it seems rediculous to want to have a "clean" install of
> > the OS
> > > and ServicePack vs just installing the ServicePack later
> > on, but it's
> > > a problem that Microsoft created for themselves. Simply look at
> > > Microsoft's history of Service Packs w/ Terminal Server and you'll
> > > understand why. W2K SP2, SP3 and SP4 all have had major issues
> and
> > > there are reports of W2K3 SP1 having some issues... I switched
> > to the
> > > "clean" install concept with W2K Sp3 and have great success with
> it.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/24/06, *Evan Mann* < emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Or call Citrix support for assistance? For the amount of
> > money we
> > > pay for Citrix, I'd be really ticked off if the only
> > solution was
> > > to re-install. Does anyone else find that unacceptable?
> > >
> > > I certainly can appreciate the desire to have "clean"
> > installs of
> > > products, but to be required to re-install after every service
> > > pack upgrade to an OS is completely ridiculous, for ANY
> product.
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> > > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On
> > > Behalf Of *Jeff Pitsch
> > > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 11:12 AM
> > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> > >
> > >
> > > Did anyone simply try doing a repair of Citrix after SP1 was
> > > installed? Just curious.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Pitsch
> > > Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
> > >
> > > Forums not enough?
> > > Get support from the experts at your business
> > > http://jeffpitschconsulting.com
> > <http://jeffpitschconsulting.com/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/24/06, *Schneider, Chad M* < CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Uninstall Citrix, install SP1, reinstall Citrix?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On Behalf Of *Justin Martin
> > > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 9:43 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What are you supposed to do if Citrix PS 4 is already
> > > installed and you must install 2003 SP 1??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>] *On Behalf Of *Schneider,
> > > Chad M
> > > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 10:26 AM
> > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Upgrade to SP1, post Citrix install, you are asking for
> > problems.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> > > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:
> > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>]
> > > *On Behalf Of *IT Support
> > > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 8:52 AM
> > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How about upgrading to SP1 with Citrix installed?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've just put SP1 on one of my servers with a view to
> > > upgrading the entire farm, but am having problems with
> > shadow
> > > keys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ie. http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?ID=238
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there anything else I should be aware of?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't really fancy rebuilding citrix if I can get away
> > with it!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > N
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> > >
> > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> > > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>]
> > > *On Behalf Of *Schneider, Chad M
> > > *Sent:* 24 March 2006 14:19
> > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Be sure the server is 2003 SP1 BEFORE you install Citrix.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > >
> > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> > > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>]
> > > *On Behalf Of *Evan Mann
> > > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 8:08 AM
> > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Windows 2003 SP1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's hasn't caused a single problem for me. My 4 PS 4.0
> > > servers were loaded fresh onto 2003 SP1 boxes. I've run
> > about
> > > a dozen pre PS4 R01 updates to fix some printing issues,
> > and
> > > others just for "good measure". Haven't gotten a chance
> to
> > > install R01 + post R01 fixes yet.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> > >
> > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> [mailto:
> > > thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>]
> > > *On Behalf Of *Minero, Hector B CIV K55
> > > *Sent:* Friday, March 24, 2006 9:03 AM
> > > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > > *Subject:* [THIN] Windows 2003 SP1
> > >
> > > Does Windows 2003 SP1 still cause problems in PS 4.0?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm getting ready to rebuild some servers and I'm
> > wondering if
> > > I should install Win2k3 SP1.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried searching thethin.net <http://thethin.net>
> > <http://thethin.net/>list
> > > archives, but that was useless.
> > >
> > > Is there a better place to search for list archives?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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