Because companies like Dell are followers, not leaders in the industry... It all about the attitude... Companies like Dell are willing to try an push things like the Itanium/Itanium2 processor which failed miserably, yet they refuse to develop and put out a system with an AMD processor. IBM and HP both have Opteron based system in the channel and they consistantly outperform their Xeon counterparts. Joe On 1/23/06, Roger Riggins <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > This statement is accurate, but does it really matter to you who > innovates the technology? > > Roger Riggins > Network Administrator > Lutheran Services in Iowa > w: 319.859.3543 > c: 319.290.5687 > http://www.lsiowa.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On > Behalf Of *Steve Greenberg > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2006 6:00 PM > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers > > > > One thing is clear though, to be fair, HP and IBM innovate server designs > and new architectures. DELL realistically is a commodity shop that produces > "me too" products. They are perfectly good products and often at a better > price, but they really don't innovate much and offer more limited management > and provisioning capabilities. > > > > Steve Greenberg > > Thin Client Computing > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262 > > (602) 432-8649 > > www.thinclient.net > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On > Behalf Of *Mark Mucher > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2006 4:41 PM > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers > > > > Jim, > > > > You make some good points - but! > > > > (My memory's not so good, so correct me if I am wrong...) > > > > Hasn't HP been in and out of the PC biz? Did they have Intel servers for > a long time or just the minis (e.g. 9000)? > > > > Are all HP servers now from Compaq? > > > > And I think Dell is older than you think - remember PCs Limited? I had > one 20 years ago... (admittedly not server-class, tho...) > > > > When DID servers as we know them start? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On > Behalf Of *Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/> > *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2006 3:48 PM > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers > > All I can say is this. When I make a decision it is an intelligent > and informed one. One of the largest criterion for a decision I make when it > comes to hardware and software(or any product for that matter) is the > companies reputation in the industry, their experience with a given > architecture, how long have they been and around and how long do I > expect will they be around in the future. > > > > It is a rarity that I have made a poor decision. My ISP has never gone > belly up, my cell phone company has never changed hands and neither have my > utility companies I choose. > > > > Compaq, Dec have changed hands, as have gateway and a myriad of other > hardware vendors. IBM has always been IBM and HP has always been HP. Both > companies have been around a lot longer then Dell. IBM has been around > since the early 1900's, HP has been around since the late 1930's and Dell > only came onto the sc ene about 15 years or so ago. They have a long way to > go before they catch up to IBM or HP. > > > > > > JK > > > > *Lutheran Services in Iowa Confidentiality Notice > ==================================================================* > The information contained in this communication may be confidential, > is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above, and > may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its > contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please return it to the sender immediately > and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer > system. If you have any questions concerning this message, please > contact the sender. > >