[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

  • From: Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:42:30 -0700

Because companies like Dell are followers, not leaders in the industry...
It all about the attitude...  Companies like Dell are willing to try an push
things like the Itanium/Itanium2 processor which failed miserably, yet they
refuse to develop and put out a system with an AMD processor.  IBM and HP
both have Opteron based system in the channel and they consistantly
outperform their Xeon counterparts.

Joe


On 1/23/06, Roger Riggins <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>  This statement is accurate, but does it really matter to you who
> innovates the technology?
>
> Roger Riggins
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Steve Greenberg
> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2006 6:00 PM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
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> One thing is clear though, to be fair, HP and IBM innovate server designs
> and new architectures. DELL realistically is a commodity shop that produces
> "me too" products. They are perfectly good products and often at a better
> price, but they really don't innovate much and offer more limited management
> and provisioning capabilities.
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> Steve Greenberg
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Mucher
> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2006 4:41 PM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
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>
>
> Jim,
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> You make some good points - but!
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> (My memory's not so good, so correct me if I am wrong...)
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> Hasn't HP been in and out of the PC biz?  Did they have Intel servers for
> a long time or just the minis (e.g. 9000)?
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> Are all HP servers now from Compaq?
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> And I think Dell is older than you think - remember PCs Limited?  I had
> one 20 years ago...  (admittedly not server-class, tho...)
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> When DID servers as we know them start?
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> Thanks,
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> Mark
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <http://thinhelp.com/>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2006 3:48 PM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
>
> All I can say is this. When I make a decision it is an intelligent
> and informed one. One of the largest criterion for a decision I make when it
> comes to hardware and software(or any product for that matter) is the
> companies reputation in the industry, their experience with a given
> architecture,  how long have they been and around and how long do I
> expect will they be around in the future.
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>
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> It is a rarity that I have made a poor decision.  My ISP has never gone
> belly up, my cell phone company has never changed hands and neither have my
> utility companies I choose.
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> Compaq, Dec have changed hands, as have gateway and a myriad of other
> hardware vendors.  IBM has always been IBM and HP has always been HP. Both
> companies have been around a lot longer then Dell.  IBM has been around
> since the early 1900's, HP has been around since the late 1930's and Dell
> only came onto the sc ene about 15 years or so ago. They have a long way to
> go before they catch up to IBM or HP.
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> JK
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