[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
- From: Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:12:10 -0500
The fire (some blue flames jetting out of the power supply) was caused
by a faulty power supply (apparently recalled I later found out). The
Proliant 1600 did shut itself off before it melted the server into
goo. I then waited a week for a back ordered power supply replacement
(it was file server for 100 people so this was not a good thing)
I had Dell servers that have ran for close to 7 years with no issues
whatsoever.
Dell's support has always been great for me personally. I don't have
an issue with using HP or IBM. A server is a box with commodity
components no matter who makes it. IBM's Intel CPU's aren't any
different than Dell's (or any better). IBM/HP lost my PC
server/desktop business a long time ago. (We still buy a lot of IBM
Iseries/Pseries units though). They might be great servers now but I
have no reason to switch back to them and save money to boot. We
hosted about 6 company's servers here with a mix of HP/IBM/Dell
servers. The Dell servers had far less problems for whatever reason.
Just my 2 cents. YMMV.
On 1/23/06, Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> We have used HP/Compaq/Digital/Dec or whatever you want to call them servers
> in our computer center for over 10 years. In all the time we have had them
> the only thing that has ever failed on any of them (and it was a Digital
> Proliant) was one of the redundant power supplies and some hard disks over
> the years. They are exceptional quality equipment. The only way a server is
> ever going to catch fire is if the fan isn't working or it is not properly
> ventilated. Dell is just fine for workstations but they need to stay out of
> the server business. I've used IBM eServers to host my websites at my home
> for 8 years now...the thing has been running nonstop..no problems ever.
>
> I don't believe that dell is as committed to the server business as IBM and
> HP/Compaq/Digital are and have been over the last two decades. Dell simply
> just can't compare to the other two...they haven't earned the respect to
> even compete with them when it comes t o servers. You're kidding yourself
> if you think any differently.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@ wrote:
> I just got an 1855 and am starting to install PS 4.0 on it now. I
> have had very good luck with Dell servers in general (we have about 50
> in service) despite some comments here to the contrary. I have had a
> Compaq server catch on fire, had numerous Compaqs with failed power
> supplies, had a hosting customer who had horrendeous service problems
> with IBM servers (every motherboard in their Citrix farm was replaced
> 2x)
> We have one of the poorly designed (any Dell rep will admit this)
> 1655 blades which was the generation before the 1855 eluded to by
> others here. Despite some difficulties with KVM compatibilty and
> installing an OS it has performed with no nee d for service for 2
> years. They seem to have learned a lot with the 1855 (time will
> tell).
>
> Dell is tough to beat on price and in my experience I have never seen
> a competitive advantage to buying a more expensive HP/Compaq/IBM.
> Service at the Gold level gets you Domestic support and 4 hr response
> (we get more like 2 hrs here) and it's still cheaper than going IBM or
> HP.
>
> If you buy any kind of quantity from Dell they will let you eval one
> (built to your spec) for nothing, for 60 days. I am sure you could
> talk HP or IBM into it as well. Why not compare them head to head?
>
> On 1/21/06, Rusty Yates wrote:
> > I would like to know if anyone on this board has had any good or bad
> > experience with the Dell PowerEdge 1855 Blade Servers. We are currently
> > taking a hard look at using the Dell Blades for our Citrix Servers.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Rusty
>
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