You are reading between the lines. I was mearly stating to Roger that both IBM and HP hardware have a bigger stake in the server business and are more committed to it then Dell ever was or ever will be. I am sure that dell equipment runs just fine and serves your purpose but there really is no comparison. Dell still needs to grow up and decide what kind of company it is going to be. IBM and HP are already there. JK Evan Mann <emann@com> wrote: I've got a couple 7 year old Dell PE servers still running today that have had zero problems. One of them is a database server with heavy I/O and CPU use (it's now relegated to a testing machine, too slow obviously). So my experiences tells me that Dell can keep up just fine with the competitors in terms of quality of equipment, uptimes, etc. My support experiences have been top notch as well. --------------------------------- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:07 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers We have used HP/Compaq/Digital/Dec or whatever you want to call them servers in our computer center for over 10 years. In all the time we have had them the only thing that has ever failed on any of them (and it was a Digital Proliant) was one of the redundant power supplies and some hard disks over the years. They are exceptional quality equipment. The only way a server is ever going to catch fire is if the fan isn't working or it is not properly ventilated. Dell is just fine for workstations but they need to stay out of the server business. I've used IBM eServers to host my websites at my home for 8 years now...the thing has been running nonstop..no problems ever. I don't believe that dell is as committed to the server business as IBM and HP/Compaq/Digital are and have been over the last two decades. Dell simply just can't compare to the other two...they haven't earned the respect to even compete with them when it comes t o servers. You're kidding yourself if you think any differently. Jim Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@ wrote: I just got an 1855 and am starting to install PS 4.0 on it now. I have had very good luck with Dell servers in general (we have about 50 in service) despite some comments here to the contrary. I have had a Compaq server catch on fire, had numerous Compaqs with failed power supplies, had a hosting customer who had horrendeous service problems with IBM servers (every motherboard in their Citrix farm was replaced 2x) We have one of the poorly designed (any Dell rep will admit this) 1655 blades which was the generation before the 1855 eluded to by others here. Despite some difficulties with KVM compatibilty and installing an OS it has performed with no nee d for service for 2 years. They seem to have learned a lot with the 1855 (time will tell). Dell is tough to beat on price and in my experience I have never seen a competitive advantage to buying a more expensive HP/Compaq/IBM. Service at the Gold level gets you Domestic support and 4 hr response (we get more like 2 hrs here) and it's still cheaper than going IBM or HP. If you buy any kind of quantity from Dell they will let you eval one (built to your spec) for nothing, for 60 days. I am sure you could talk HP or IBM into it as well. Why not compare them head to head? On 1/21/06, Rusty Yates wrote: > I would like to know if anyone on this board has had any good or bad > experience with the Dell PowerEdge 1855 Blade Servers. We are currently > taking a hard look at using the Dell Blades for our Citrix Servers. > > Thanks in advance! > > Rusty Jim Kenzig CEO The Kenzig Group http://www.kenzig.com Sponsorships Available! Blog: http://www.techblink.com Terminal Services Downloads: http://www.thinhelp.com Windows Vista: http://www.VistaPop.com Virtualization: http://www.virtualize-it.com Games: http://www.stressedpuppy.com Jim Kenzig CEO The Kenzig Group http://www.kenzig.com Sponsorships Available! Blog: http://www.techblink.com Terminal Services Downloads: http://www.thinhelp.com Windows Vista: http://www.VistaPop.com Virtualization: http://www.virtualize-it.com Games: http://www.stressedpuppy.com