[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

  • From: Jeremy Saunders <jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:04:21 +0800

I agree 100% with Jim. However, putting all the comparisons aside, we need
to respect that some companies don't have budgets and management buy in
like others. So they have to achieve the same solution with a lot less
funding. Isn't that the reason why most people choose Dell's? Whilst
99.99999% of the time we sell HP's and IBM's, there is always going to be
that one project we do every now and then that is based on Dell's. At the
end of the day, you may not get the same performance and reliability out of
them, but they still work and will do the job.

Interesting comments about the 1855 blades though. Fancy a Dell salesman
saying that.

Rusty, I deployed a couple of 1850 1U servers a few weeks back, which are
being used as Citrix Servers. The only catch was that we had to disable the
DRAC Virtual Devices during the build process, as our 2nd partition was
being set to E: and not D:. The Virtual CD ROM drive automatically took D:
which failed our build process because we build Citrix servers with the
Profiles (Documents and Settings) folder on the D: drive.

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All I can say is this. When I make a decision it is an intelligent and
informed one. One of the largest criterion for a decision I make when it
comes to hardware and software(or any product for that matter) is the
companies reputation in the industry, their experience with a given
architecture,  how long have they been and around and how long do I expect
will they be around in the future.

It is a rarity that I have made a poor decision.  My ISP has never gone
belly up, my cell phone company has never changed hands and neither have my
utility companies I choose.

Compaq, Dec have changed hands, as have gateway and a myriad of other
hardware vendors.  IBM has always been IBM and HP has always been HP. Both
companies have been around a lot longer then Dell.  IBM has been around
since the early 1900's, HP has been around since the late 1930's and Dell
only came onto the sc ene about 15 years or so ago. They have a long way to
go before they catch up to IBM or HP.


JK




Roger Riggins <roger. wrote:
 So you choose IBM not because they have a better product, but because of
 their reputation? Just clarifying.
 Roger Riggins
 Network Administrator
 Lutheran Services in Iowa
 w: 319.859.3543
 c: 319.290.5687
 http://www.lsiowa.org

       -----Original Message-----
       From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
       On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com
       Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:06 PM
       To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
       Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

       Um I wasn't comparing the hardware...I was comparing the companies
       and their stature in the industry.
       JK



       From: roger.riggins
       Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:27 PM
       To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
       I still donât get it. If there is no comparison in hardware, then
       you should be able to rattle off some differences that make it so.
       Roger Riggins
       Network Administrator
       Lutheran Services in Iowa
       w: 319.859.3543
       c: 319.290.5687
       http://www.lsiowa.org

             -----Original Message-----
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             [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
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             Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:18 AM
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             Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers

             You are reading between the lines.  I was mearly stating to
             Roger that both IBM and HP hardware have a bigger stake in the
             server business and are more committed to it then Dell ever
             was or ever will be. I am sure that dell equipment runs just
             fine and serves your purpose but there really is no
             comparison.  Dell still needs to grow up and decide what kind
             of company it is going to be. IBM and HP are already there.
             JK


       Evan Mann <emann@com> wrote:
              I've got a couple 7 year old Dell PE servers still running
              today that have had zero problems.  On e of them is a data
              base server with heavy I/O and CPU use (it's now relegated to
              a testing machine, too slow obviously).  So my experiences
              tells me that Dell ca n keep up just fine with the
              competitors in terms of quality of equipment, uptimes, etc.
              My support experiences have been top notch as well.



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