Jeff, you said "...everything about Dell servers pales in comparison to HP and IBM". I simply want to know why. If you can't expound on your statements then we'll take them for what they're worth and move on. If it's merely an opinion, then say so and don't present it as fact. Rusty's original post was about Dell 1885 blades. You didn't even answer his question, but immediately slammed Dell and its entire server line. It's obvious that YOU are the one that has strong feelings about Dell. Maybe Rusty isn't interested in lights out or being the first on the block to run AMD procs in his NOC. Does that mean that mean that he still shouldn't look at Dell? Look, you are an enormous asset to this list and your opinion probably carries much weight for many readers. That may be even more reason for you to be sure to distinguish between fact and opinion. As for this thread being about me: We are mixed Dell/HP. Our last server purchase was HP servers. I have no loyalty either way and I was never offended. All I'm doing is calling a spade a spade. Roger Riggins Network Administrator Lutheran Services in Iowa w: 319.859.3543 c: 319.290.5687 http://www.lsiowa.org -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:07 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers Yes it does because Dell will ALWAYS be behind the other two. How long have they had to develop a Management product for their servers and it still stinks? Come one, 7, 8 years or more? they can't do better than open manage? Still requiring VNC to be installed to remote the server? hardly a lights out solution. I don't know how anyone has offended you but you obviously feel very strongly in Dell. Great have fun with them but don't take this thread like it's a personal discussion about you. Jeff Pitsch <b>Lutheran Services in Iowa Confidentiality Notice ==================================================================</b> <red>The information contained in this communication may be confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender immediately and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. If you have any questions concerning this message, please contact the sender.</red>