[THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
- From: "Roger Riggins" <roger.riggins@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:57:47 -0600
All due respect... prove it! We've experienced the same reliability that
you describe, but with Dell. What do you have to back up your
statements? Simply because you haven't had a lot of hardware failures
doesn't mean that Dell is crap. Just because you have 8 year old web
servers still in production doesn't mean Dell is crap.
Why do you feel that Dell hasn't earned respect? Because they don't
spend 30 million dollars in R&D to find out that air flows better
through a hexagonal hole versus a round one? Well, I thank you for
funding IBM's R&D, and I thank Dell for making use of that R&D so that I
may get the same technology on your dime.
All I'm saying is that slinging mud doesn't help anybody understand why
IBM/HP would be better than Dell. We're all engineers. Give us some real
info.
Of course, all IMHO.
Roger Riggins
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Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Dell PE 1855 Blade Servers
We have used HP/Compaq/Digital/Dec or whatever you want to call them
servers in our computer center for over 10 years. In all the time we
have had them the only thing that has ever failed on any of them (and it
was a Digital Proliant) was one of the redundant power supplies and some
hard disks over the years. They are exceptional quality equipment. The
only way a server is ever going to catch fire is if the fan isn't
working or it is not properly ventilated. Dell is just fine for
workstations but they need to stay out of the server business. I've used
IBM eServers to host my websites at my home for 8 years now...the thing
has been running nonstop..no problems ever.
I don't believe that dell is as committed to the server business as IBM
and HP/Compaq/Digital are and have been over the last two decades. Dell
simply just can't compare to the other two...they haven't earned the
respect to even compete with them when it comes t o servers. You're
kidding yourself if you think any differently.
Jim
Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@ wrote:
I just got an 1855 and am starting to install PS 4.0 on it now.
I
have had very good luck with Dell servers in general (we have
about 50
in service) despite some comments here to the contrary. I have
had a
Compaq server catch on fire, had numerous Compaqs with failed
power
supplies, had a hosting customer who had horrendeous service
problems
with IBM servers (every motherboard in their Citrix farm was
replaced
2x)
We have one of the poorly designed (any Dell rep will admit
this)
1655 blades which was the generation before the 1855 eluded to
by
others here. Despite some difficulties with KVM compatibilty and
installing an OS it has performed with no nee d for service for
2
years. They seem to have learned a lot with the 1855 (time will
tell).
Dell is tough to beat on price and in my experience I have never
seen
a competitive advantage to buying a more expensive
HP/Compaq/IBM.
Service at the Gold level gets you Domestic support and 4 hr
response
(we get more like 2 hrs here) and it's still cheaper than going
IBM or
HP.
If you buy any kind of quantity from Dell they will let you eval
one
(built to your spec) for nothing, for 60 days. I am sure you
could
talk HP or IBM into it as well. Why not compare them head to
head?
On 1/21/06, Rusty Yates wrote:
> I would like to know if anyone on this board has had any good
or bad
> experience with the Dell PowerEdge 1855 Blade Servers. We are
currently
> taking a hard look at using the Dell Blades for our Citrix
Servers.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Rusty
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