BTW invest in rechargeable batteries--I used regular batteries just once to learn my lesson. Got rechargables and havent bought batteries in 2 years. Infact--I got 2 sets just in case I run out of juice at an inopportune time. Got them for the kide nintendo advanced etc etc ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > Having purchased a cheap 2 meg unit about 9 months ago I have three > comments. First, I should have spent some more to get one with a decent > optical zoom lense. Second, it is temperamental and sometimes decides it > just isnt going to work, so look for a long waranty. Third, it uses 4 > alkaline AA cells and they dont last long. > Jerry Silverman > Greentron Inc > 4 Newland Ave > Greenville SC 29609 > 864 232 3889 > Fax 271 2080 > mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Svilpa" <robesv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:22 PM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > > > > > Price difference between a 1.3 and a 2.1 Mpix is pretty negligent these > > days. Even some of the 3 Mpix cameras are down below $200 so buying a > > camera with better resolution shouldn't bankrupt anyone. I think if > > someone were really looking to cheap out they could buy a JamCam 2.0 > > from WalMart for $25. I think I remember that thing having around 1.3 > > Mpix resolution and was able to store 16 pictures at 640x480. > > > > Best advice to anyone - pick the highest resolution camera for the > > lowest price you can afford. Memory cards and other things can be add > > ons later. > > > > Rob Svilpa > > SDET > > Microsoft Corp. > > Redmond, WA > > (A friggin expensive place to live) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of teltek3 > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 5:39 AM > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Damon; > > 1.3 megapixel with todays technology is not enough if you are taking > > pictures that you may want to have taken to Print. I don't mean Print on > > the > > printer, since that technology is still evolving. But to have a picture > > blown to an 8X10...1,3 is not enough.I can send you 2 pictures taken > > with > > the old camera and the new, you would definitely see the difference. > > Difference is like taking a picture with a Brownie and a High Priced 35 > > mil > > SLR. > > > > > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > Ontario-Canada > > > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:10 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > OK GUYS. Remember we're suggesting a camera for Phillip Bader's wife? > > Not > > > trying to suggest that we have the Best camera for the most > > persnickity > > > videophiles with deep pockets. Sheesh. Remember what Phil said: > > > > > > She wants to make and print out photos mostly of family and pets > > > > > for > > > > > > > > keepsake albums for the rest of the family. She has two nice > > HP > > > > > > > > printers, photo quality. > > > > > > Ed says 1.3 Megapixels aint' enough...Rob Svilpa talking about audio > > > resolution and blowing up pictures to 8 x 10......just how big does he > > think > > > Keepsake Albums are??? > > > > > > C'mon guys......don't cloud the issue. Phil needs help on what will > > satisfy > > > his wife for a reasonable price, if he wants to take pictures of his > > SMDs > > he > > > would have told us. > > > > > > K.I.S.S. > > > > > > Damon Brunger > > > Telrad Electronic Services > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:46 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are people that can look at something, say a TV, and the TV > > tech > > > says, > > > > "that is too green" where someone else does not see it. There are > > people > > > > who can hear things that other people can not hear. > > > > > > > > Just because one person can not hear or see a difference does not > > mean > > > that > > > > no one can. It only takes one person to hear/see a difference to > > prove > > > that > > > > there is a difference. > > > > > > > > Wayne Vanaman > > > > Omega Electronics > > > > 6904 W Fairfield Dr > > > > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 > > > > > > > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com > > > > > > > > 850-456-5995 voice > > > > 850-458-6369 fax > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Rob Svilpa" <robesv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:28 AM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey > > awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, actually the differences become apparent when you're trying > > to > > > > > "blow up" the picture to 8x10 or larger. At that point you can see > > the > > > > > aliasing the photo software does to make the pixels look less > > digital > > > > > and more film like. If you're taking pictures of the Grand Canyon > > or > > > > > anything you'd like to blow up to a decent size to hang on your > > wall, > > > > > then the greater the number of pixels the better the picture > > quality. > > > > > But if you're just taking shots of your wife standing on the beach > > at > > > > > Cape Cod or basic candid shots of friends and family, well... 2.1 > > Mpix > > > > > might be enough resolution for you. > > > > > > > > > > Also, with digital systems having the sample rates sitting at the > > > > > standard 44.1 kHz doesn't do justice to any of the sounds that > > fall > > > > > above the 15 kHz range. Your sampled wave gets closer and closer > > to a > > > > > pure square wave the higher the frequency gets, and on playback > > the > > > > > digital dithering has to do too much averaging and smoothing to > > make > > the > > > > > sound faithful to the original recorded signal. There are much > > higher > > > > > sample rates available in recording studios now (96 kHz) but since > > the > > > > > CD standard is 44.1 we still end up with a mashed version of the > > > music.=3D20 > > > > > > > > > > For those interested in digital music recording, check out Tom > > Scholtz > > > > > (guitar/engineer for Boston) and his attitudes about it. He is > > scathing > > > > > in his criticism of digital media. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phillip R. > > Hull > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:20 AM > > > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a 2.1 mega pixel I can not tell the difference between > > there > > > > > pictures and the 35mm prints, but I have a PhotoSmart printer > > also > > I > > > > > think alot of the hype is like sound systems that have a freq to > > 40,000 > > > > > cycles but humans can only hear 20,000 The human eye probably > > can't > > > > > see > > > > > much difference between 2.1 and 3 or higher megapixel, but > > without > > the > > > > > right printer it won't help either. > > > > > Phillip R Hull STET > > > > > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > FAX 517--569-3075 > > > > > ----- Original Message -----=3D20 > > > > > From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:00 AM > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey > > awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.3 megapixel is not enough for prints. I know...I use one. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ed- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:52 AM > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Digital camera preferences? (wifey > > awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, 1.3 megapixels will give you extremely high quality in > > a 5 > > x > > > > > 7 > > > > > > print, > > > > > > > but 2 megapixels is good to 8 x 10. All others are BS unless > > you're > > > > > an > > > > > > > artist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd, memory...don't worry too much about that. Most cameras > > will > > > > > allow > > > > > you > > > > > > > to shoot at least 8 - 10 highest definition pictures with the > > memory > > > > > > > provided, and up to 96 pictures in the lowest definition. . > > Good > > > > > range > > > > > of > > > > > > > choices.....I'd be more concerned about cameras that use > > > > > "proprietary > > > > > > > memory" designs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back when I purchased mine, there were 2 choices of > > memory...Smart > > > > > Card > > > > > > and > > > > > > > Compact Flash. I know they've evolved, but into what...I don't > > know. > > > > > > Logical > > > > > > > approach to memory is to go to Kmart and see what they hang on > > their > > > > > > > shelves. Then get on the phone with your locally owned camera > > film > > > > > > processor > > > > > > > / digital camera sales company and see what type of memory is > > used > > > > > in at > > > > > > > least 50 - 70 % of today's cameras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That or you can call 1 (260) 485 - 3003 ask for the owner and > > ask > > > > > him > > > > > what > > > > > > > he recommends. He knows his stuff, I've heard him on the > > radio. > > This > > > > > guy > > > > > > is > > > > > > > set up for photo in both realms, film and digital. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But as for your needs... > > > > > > > Go 1.3 megapixel minimum > > > > > > > 8 megabyte card will give you enough. > > > > > > > Buy Nimh batteries (not Nicad). > > > > > > > Docking station is BS (either get a printer with a memory card > > slot > > > > > or > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > worry about it, ok?) > > > > > > > Buy Microsoft Picture It > > > > > > > (Adobe Photo does a lot more, costs a lot more, and I don't > > think > > > > > your > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > wants to Moire every picture of you, nor Gasteau her poodle, > > eh?) > > > > > It's > > > > > > > quick, simple and carrys enough power to do 99 % of your > > artistic > > > > > needs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The best thing I like about digital....Is the fact that I can > > take > > a > > > > > low > > > > > > > light picture, turn up the brightness/contrast and get what > > looks > > > > > like a > > > > > > > daylight picture. It's the adjustability of the Picture It > > software > > > > > that > > > > > I > > > > > > > use that really counts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Damon Brunger > > > > > > > Telrad Electronic Services > > > > > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Philip Bader" <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:12 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Digital camera preferences? (wifey > > awaits!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wifey is wanting a digital camera. > > > > > > > > So many choices and options. Some have movie modes with and > > > > > without > > > > > > > > sound.This is not a necessity as we have a VHS-C > > camcorder.(movies > > > > > on > > > > > > > > these digitals are not the best anyway) > > > > > > > > She wants to make and print out photos mostly of family and > > pets > > > > > for > > > > > > > > keepsake albums for the rest of the family. She has two nice > > HP > > > > > > > > printers, photo quality. > > > > > > > > The PC is 1.8 GHz P4, 256 Megs, (with CDRW),etc and several > > USB > > > > > ports. > > > > > > > > I don't want to go 500-600 bucks.Memory and pixels seems to > > be > > the > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > here especially doing better quality photos for prints.Some > > use > > > > > > > > proprietary memory,I think.Some are more costly than others. > > > > > > > > Dock stations,or not... > > > > > > > > Macro for close ups? > > > > > > > > Number of pictures per session... > > > > > > > > I'm lost. > > > > > > > > I need your considered opinions.Will print them and present > > them > > > > > to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > "boss". > > > > > > > > many thanks. > > > > > > > > Phil Bader > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Philip Bader > > > > > > > > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) > > > > > > > > 3420 Recker Hwy. 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